What engine's are in these cars?

Blue Eyed Devil said:

Ok look, If you don't even know what CFM is then you should not even be considering a multi-carb setup of any kind for your first build, yet alone a 6x2. I'm not trying to come down on you, but you gotta walk before you can run. In your case crawling would be a good start...

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sc5080 said:

Those Ford ECG carbs are rated at 185 cfm each. With 6 that would be 1110 cfm. I don't think using all 6 would work very well on a mild 350 but 3 should work quite well at 555 cfm.

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Classic_Crime_Inc said:

like I said before I'm 20yrs old and this is my first time dealin with old carbs like these, this is my first build..I've done muscle cars and classics but never hot rods or rat rods and I plan to keep this car forever, I never grew up around cars or took shop classes I learn as I go from friends and the internet it's worked well so far I'm trying to learn as much as I can threw sites like this..for a lot of the stuff I'll be taking to my buddys shop and he'll be doing the work while I learn along the way.. I understand where your coming from but how can I learn if I dont ask questions..I didnt grow up in the 50's or 60's when these things were around all the time. So if it bugs you I guess dont visit my thread but I'll continue to ask questions and gain info..I love the looks of the 6x2 and really want to go that route I wont be the one tuning it or anything but I'd like to have a general idea so as I learn and watch I can help others when I'm older and when I do other cars

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Blue Eyed Devil said:

You are getting it all wrong. It dosen't bug me when you ask questions, so don't get offended when I offer you sage advice. You can do whatever you want, but I HAVE dealt with these things for a long time. I know what a PITA multi-carb setups can be, especially for an inexperienced builder. Why not start with something simpler for your first build so you can say that YOU did it. Why let someone else build/tune it and be a poser?

Sorry if it sounds harsh, but it's true. You do photography right? Well I will be the first one to admit that I don't know sh*t about photography, but let's say I decide I want to be a photographer one day. Would you advise me to run out and buy the most expensive, tempermental, complicated camera on the market and have at it? OR would you suggest that I start with something a little easier until I am used to how it works, then upgrade to a better model?

I also wouldn't want to be at a photography show when someone walks up and starts asking questions about my fancy doo-dad camera and my only reply is "I just bought it because it looks cool. I have someone else take the pictures for me." See what I am saying?

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bob w said:

Lots of guys will run ony 2 of the carbs on a 6-two set up. They will block off the other four (the carbs are there, just not hooked up and there are block off plates between the carbs and the manifold) so they are there just for looks. I would suggest starting that way to make tuning easier. That way you get the look of 6 carbs without the headache of trying to syncronize all of them. After it is running well you can go with 4 carbs activated.

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Classic_Crime_Inc said:

yeah I'm a young guy and new to this..but I have a guy building my frame and all that..he's done a few rods and race cars..saftey first..I'm trying to learn along the way threw here and friends..and eventually get enough knowledge later down the road and I'll be able to do it without help

now I had another question there is a guy who wants to trade me his 427 motor and 400 trans for my truck that I'm selling..I'm just wondering if a motor like that would be too big for a '30 coupe rod

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The 38 Special said:

I would not go with a 427 yet. The thought of someone who just isn't in the know yet is about as pleasant as imagining eating a soda can for me. I would stay with a mild smallblock. I may go back to a basic I6 even. Really don't need much power in these things when they are stripped down to go fast, quick.

Plus all that weight from that big motor in the nose of the car will cause the car to be unresponsive in emergency maneuvers unless you lay the motor back a good long ways.

But the 427 has always had its alure. Put a 427 in a 69 nova not too long ago. Man that was fun.. but that car isnt around anymore. Only got to see the car complete once before someone had their way with her beautiful satin orange butt.

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Classic_Crime_Inc said:

thats an extremley good idea, I think thats what I'll do..so that'd be 370 CFM..would that be good or would I want to have 3 carbs running for the 555 CFM?

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Blue Eyed Devil said:

I'm not trying to come down on you, but you gotta walk before you can run. In your case crawling would be a good start...

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Sam_Fear said:

I gotta agree with BED on this.

Why not plan on multiple carbs after you get the thing on the road. Get a 4bbl and play with it a bit first. I mean what's more cool, cruisin your rat down the street or forever in your garage trying to get your 6x's to run right?

Either way you go, just don't give up on it.

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sc5080 said:

Your thread got me doing a little searching on the web where I have found information that I didn't know about multiple carb setups as well as the fact that 2 bbl carbs are measured differently that 4 bbl carbs for cfm ratings. This fact changes everything. Also I discovered that multiple carb setup will flow differently than single carbs because they cause a reduction in maniford vacuum. Here are a couple of the many links I found interesting on the subject:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280538
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-77680.html
http://www.gasalleystreetrods.com/msindex.html

and there is lots more out there. "Google" can be your friend.

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Classic_Crime_Inc said:

should I still run 3 carbs and block off the other 3?

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