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Lakota

Rides a rusted horse
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Elmendorf (San Antonio), Tx
Yesterday I went to a shop to pick up a part. I noticed that they do inspections. I told him that I have a 52 F1 Ford that needs a sticker, and said nothing more. His first question was, does it have any modifications. I told him what could be plainly seen. It was an F1 sitting on an 89 Chevy frame and has a 68 engine. He said that it would have to be inspected as an 89 vehicle because it was modified. I told him that it was not registered as a modified vehicle, it was registered as a 52 F1. He says that according to TXDOT I will need cat converters and air polution crap on the engine. I just spent seven hours pouring through TXDOT laws and can't find anything pertaining to modified vehicles. Anyone have any insight on this???
 
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Yesterday I went to a shop to pick up a part. I noticed that they do inspections. I told him that I have a 52 F1 Ford that needs a sticker, and said nothing more. His first question was, does it have any modifications. I told him what could be plainly seen. It was an F1 sitting on an 89 Chevy frame and has a 68 engine. He said that it would have to be inspected as an 89 vehicle because it was modified. I told him that it was not registered as a modified vehicle, it was registered as a 52 F1. He says that according to TXDOT I will need cat converters and air polution crap on the engine. I just spent seven hours pouring through TXDOT laws and can't find anything pertaining to modified vehicles. Anyone have any insight on this???

A... er... *friend* suggested... go to another inspection station & don't mention the '89 frame & '68 engine part again!!!

BoB
 
thats what i would do, he's probably going to try and cover his butt by basing everything off of the later model frame. he dosn't want to do you any favors, know what i mean?
 
I don't have ant direct insight as to TXDOT regulations, but I would take Tripper's advice on this one. If the inspector that you spoke with is correct, you may never be able to get a sticker. If you don't mention the modifications, another inspector may never know the difference. Unreasonable regulations cause this sort of thing to happen.
 
In Cali, we don't have inspections. However, we do have smog inspections for cars after 75'. This may change down to 66'. A friend of mine did smog inspections and got caught illegally smogging a car. He lost his license for 4 years and it was a $6K fine.

On the other hand, a guy went down to a smog referee because he did an engine swap on an 87' Ford Courier using a 65' 289. The referee exempted the truck and issued a sticker. The referee was wrong or an idiot. You can only get an exemption if the engine swap was done prior to 83'. After 83', it goes by the year of the car.

In other words, you may luck out and get an idiot inspector............
 
Thanks for the input guys. After reading several threads and talking to several guys, I'm going to re-register it as an antique. As an antique, it's limited to parades, functions, and club meetings, and safety inspections are not required.
No more sticker problems. I'll just go to parades, functions, and club meetings....
Yeah, right!!!
 
Hey Lakota, here are some facts of Texas vehical laws, hope this will help you out. All the information was garnered from the DMV.org site under Texas.
SUBCHAPTER D. REGISTRATION PROCEDURES AND FEES


§ 502.151. APPLICATION FOR REGISTRATION. (a) An
application for vehicle registration must:
(1) be made on a form furnished by the department;
(2) contain the full name and address of the owner of
the vehicle;
(3) contain a brief description of the vehicle;
(4) contain any other information required by the
department; and
(5) be signed by the owner.
(b) For a new motor vehicle, the description of the vehicle
must include the vehicle's:
(1) trade name;
(2) year model;
(3) style and type of body;
(4) weight, if the vehicle is a passenger car;
(5) net carrying capacity and gross weight, if the
vehicle is a commercial motor vehicle;
(6) vehicle identification number; and
(7) date of sale by the manufacturer or dealer to the
applicant.
(c) An applicant for registration of a commercial motor
vehicle, truck-tractor, trailer, or semitrailer must deliver to the
county assessor-collector an affidavit showing the weight of the
vehicle, the maximum load to be carried on the vehicle, and the
gross weight for which the vehicle is to be registered. The
assessor-collector shall keep the affidavit on file.
(d) In lieu of filing an application during a year as
provided by Subsection (a), the owner of a vehicle registered in any
state for that year or the preceding year may present the
registration receipt and transfer receipt, if any. The county
assessor-collector shall accept the receipt as an application for
renewal of the registration if the receipt indicates the applicant
owns the vehicle.
(e) If an owner or claimed owner has lost or misplaced the
registration receipt or transfer receipt for the vehicle, the
county assessor-collector shall register the vehicle on the
person's furnishing to the assessor-collector satisfactory
evidence, by affidavit or otherwise, that the person owns the
vehicle.
(f) A county assessor-collector shall date each
registration receipt issued for a vehicle with the date on which the
application for registration is made.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.

§ 502.1535. EVIDENCE OF VEHICLE EMISSIONS INSPECTION. A
county assessor-collector may not register a motor vehicle subject
to Section 548.3011 unless proof that the vehicle has passed a
vehicle emissions test as required by that section, in a form
authorized by that section, is presented to the county
assessor-collector with the application for registration.

Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1075, § 5, eff. Sept. 1, 2001.

§ 502.156. STATEMENT REQUIRED FOR REBUILT VEHICLES. A
county assessor-collector shall require an applicant for
registration of a rebuilt vehicle to provide a statement that the
vehicle is rebuilt and that states the name of each person from whom
the parts used in assembling the vehicle were obtained.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.

SUBCHAPTER B. VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT SUBJECT TO INSPECTION AND
REINSPECTION


§ 548.051. VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT SUBJECT TO
INSPECTION. (a) A motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, pole
trailer, or mobile home, registered in this state, must have the
following items inspected at an inspection station or by an
inspector:
(1) tires;
(2) wheel assembly;
(3) safety guards or flaps, if required by Section
547.606;
(4) brake system, including power brake unit;
(5) steering system, including power steering;
(6) lighting equipment;
(7) horns and warning devices;
(8) mirrors;
(9) windshield wipers;
(10) sunscreening devices, unless the vehicle is
exempt from sunscreen device restrictions under Section 547.613;
(11) front seat belts in vehicles on which seat belt
anchorages were part of the manufacturer's original equipment;
(12) tax decal, if required by Section 548.104(d)(1);
(13) exhaust system;
(14) exhaust emission system;
(15) fuel tank cap, using pressurized testing
equipment approved by department rule; and
(16) emissions control equipment as designated by
department rule.
(b) A moped is subject to inspection in the same manner as a
motorcycle, except that the only items of equipment required to be
inspected are the brakes, headlamps, rear lamps, and reflectors,
which must comply with the standards prescribed by Sections 547.408
and 547.801.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995. Amended
by Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 1189, § 29, eff. Sept. 1, 1999.

§ 548.053. REINSPECTION OF VEHICLE REQUIRING ADJUSTMENT,
CORRECTION, OR REPAIR. (a) If an inspection discloses the
necessity for adjustment, correction, or repair, an inspection
station or inspector may not issue an inspection certificate until
the adjustment, correction, or repair is made. The owner of the
vehicle may have the adjustment, correction, or repair made by a
qualified person of the owner's choice, subject to reinspection.
The vehicle shall be reinspected once free of charge within 15 days
after the date of the original inspection, not including the date
the original inspection is made, at the same inspection station
after the adjustment, correction, or repair is made.
(b) A vehicle that is inspected and is subsequently involved
in an accident affecting the safe operation of an item of inspection
must be reinspected following repair. The reinspection must be at
an inspection station and shall be treated and charged as an initial
inspection.
(c) If a vehicle subject to this chapter is damaged to the
apparent extent that it would require repair before passing
inspection, the investigating officer shall remove the inspection
certificate from the vehicle windshield and give the operator of
the vehicle a dated receipt. The vehicle must be reinspected not
later than the 30th day after the date shown on the receipt.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.

Here is a real BS ruling in Texas laws:
§ 726.002. TESTING AND INSPECTION OF MOTOR VEHICLES. A
municipality may adopt an ordinance:
(1) requiring each resident of the municipality,
including a corporation having its principal office or place of
business in the municipality, who owns a motor vehicle used for the
transportation of persons or property and each person operating a
motor vehicle on the public thoroughfares of the municipality to
have each motor vehicle owned or operated, as appropriate, tested
and inspected not more than four times in each calendar year;


(2) requiring each motor vehicle involved in an
accident to be tested and inspected before it may be operated on the
public thoroughfares of the municipality; or

(3) requiring that a motor vehicle operated on the
public thoroughfares of the municipality be tested, inspected, and
approved by the testing and inspecting authority.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.

TRANSPORTATION CODE

CHAPTER 727. MODIFICATION OF, TAMPERING WITH, AND EQUIPMENT OF
MOTOR VEHICLES


§ 727.001. MINIMUM ROAD CLEARANCE OF CERTAIN VEHICLES;
OFFENSE. (a) A person commits an offense if the person operates on
a public roadway a passenger or commercial vehicle that has been
modified from its original design or weighted so that the clearance
between any part of the vehicle other than the wheels and the
surface of the level roadway is less than the clearance between the
roadway and the lowest part of the rim of any wheel in contact with
the roadway.
(b) An offense under this section is a misdemeanor
punishable by a fine not to exceed $50.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.

§ 727.004. RIM OR TIRE WIDTH; OFFENSE. (a) A person
commits an offense if the person sells or offers for sale a road
vehicle, including a wagon, that has a rim or tire width less than:
(1) three inches, if the vehicle has an intended
carrying capacity of more than 2,000 pounds and not more than 4,500
pounds; or
(2) four inches, if the vehicle has an intended
carrying capacity of more than 4,500 pounds.
(b) This section does not apply to an individual who sells
or offers for sale a road vehicle purchased for the individual's
use.
(c) An offense under this section is punishable by a fine of
not less than $100 or more than $1,000.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.
 
Gasser,
Whoa!!! That is pretty steeep!!! 4 years... no license!? What do u do?

BoB
In Cali, unless you got a friend that trusts you, you can't get a smog certificate with an illegal car. What the Bureau of Automotive repair is doing are "stings". They will send a car in, whether smog or general repair, disconnect something and see what the mechanic will do. If the mechanic illegally smogs a car or charges for repairs not done, they will be arrested.

In my friends case, my friend had to hire someone with their own license, to smog cars in his shop.
 
Some states are really trying to crack down hard on the rides that don't make the grade when it is dealing with the emmissions being spued. You need to have a good station that will help make your ride pass the grade. I am in the process of fixing my 68 Chevy truck so it will pass the blow on its own.
Costly affair all the around. It is only going to get owrst in the years ahead of those with old rides and older engines. Pretty soon some BS legistature anul licker will pass a bill to require all sorts of rings for us to jump through.
I hate to even think of what lays ahead of us and our old rides.:eek:

Maximo
 

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