Dirtyrat
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Depends on what you are going for, a camber increase on turn in is a good thing for handling...
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21willys
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So, how well do these things work?[S I have to admit, that's "visually interesting," anyway.
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Shea
According to the 1950s willys advertising they are the best ever lol
Now back to our regular schedule thread!
Eric
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That's actually mentioned in some of the willys advertising. Can't remember where I read that at tho.
Eric
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Yes, a camber increase (positive) on the inside tire and a camber decrease (negative) on the outside when turning is desirable. This is generally controlled with the caster angle during a turn. What I'm seeing is a camber decrease (negative) during spring compression with the wheels straight ahead.
What I'm trying to say is that the geometry of those spindles was designed to have the best control of the car under all driving conditions. In order to maintain the caster, camber, toe out on turns, the upper and lower control arms are going to have to be of a length and design comparable to the original specifications when using these spindles and steering knuckle arms.
Just compare this to a simple straight axle used in a model T or A Ford. You can lower or raise the axle height, increase or decrease the tread width. As long as the spindle itself is not altered, and the proper caster and camber angles are kept during alignment, the original geometry of the entire suspension is not changed.
Thanks,
Dave.
What I'm trying to say is that the geometry of those spindles was designed to have the best control of the car under all driving conditions. In order to maintain the caster, camber, toe out on turns, the upper and lower control arms are going to have to be of a length and design comparable to the original specifications when using these spindles and steering knuckle arms.
Just compare this to a simple straight axle used in a model T or A Ford. You can lower or raise the axle height, increase or decrease the tread width. As long as the spindle itself is not altered, and the proper caster and camber angles are kept during alignment, the original geometry of the entire suspension is not changed.
Thanks,
Dave.
Flipper_1938
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The original jag suspension arms shot off of the frame at an angle and the whole layout was pretty ugly. I won't be copying any of it or using the geometry.
...looking back at this picture, I don't think the I-beam upper arms would be all that much of a distraction.
dtracy
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Flipper – Sorry, I didn't mean to be disrespectful or to criticize, I think this is a very cool project and your work is very good. I was just concerned about potential safety and handling issues that may arise. Don’t forget to consider the breaking torque applied to the control arms when you design the uppers.
Thanks, Dave.
Thanks, Dave.
Flipper_1938
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Dirtyrat
Got Fins?
Wow, how do you get that out of shape in a corolla? That has what 130hp at best? And functional safety parts... what the heck happened?
Flipper_1938
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Dumb luck?
He was very lucky. He somehow managed to avoid having a "sudden stop". He walked away without a scratch.
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Flipper_1938
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I still haven't figured out how he did what he did to the hood.....
maverickmk
Rebel Rodder
Wow, glad he's okay.
I think that will all buff out
I think that will all buff out
Neverdone
He's not done yet...
Very lucky man!!!! That looks like it could have REALLY hurt!!!
Toyota, moving forward, even when you don't want them too.... LOL
Wow, glad he's okay.
I think that will all buff out
Might need a bit of fiberglass too!!!
sgtpontiac
Older, Wiser and Still Buildin'
Ouch!!!!
Thats it.....everyone has said everything else....
Thats it.....everyone has said everything else....
Snake Farm
Ol school snake charmer!
.........I think that will all buff out
True, but you will also need to blow the dirt out of those rims before you reinflate the tires.
Flipping cars off culvert heads is scary stuff......glad your son is okay. 
Flipper_1938
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He took a turn too fast for wet roads.....
Old Iron
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Flipper_1938
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Well, I got a chance to go play this weekend.
I dug into a pile and pulled out some 1952 Mercedes front suspension pieces. They don't really work as is, but what else is new.
The cross shaft and spring bucket mount is what is interesting to me.
My a-arm kit...some assembly required.
Yes the wrench is part of the plan
I dug into a pile and pulled out some 1952 Mercedes front suspension pieces. They don't really work as is, but what else is new.
The cross shaft and spring bucket mount is what is interesting to me.
My a-arm kit...some assembly required.
Yes the wrench is part of the plan
