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I have updated these to fold. You guys got me thinking, how could I make these much more user friendly... So I deseigned them on a folding set up. You almost cant screw them up. Simply fold, weld, and smooth.

AMEN!

It is the camera angle. its ahrd to catch a 3 dimentional object with a flat lense...LOL... The time involved is why Im offering these.

LOL.... The more of these I sell, the more styles will come, so buy...[cl Model A typ are next.

Thank you sir.

I think you missed the point... I didn't build anything out of rec tubing. And its ok not to like something, but you do not have to slam it as cheep or a scam? You know the price of steel, and the time involved, Its a very good deal.

I agree.

Structural tubing??? I honestly have no idea what your talking about? Flat iron?..[cl[S Its Steel! Yes PLEASE pass the peanuts.....Thats funny to.

Hi Fink, I think you may find this interesting, we got into this discussion a while back on the HAMB and the results might surprise you on page 4. Read the whole thread, it will answer all questions about frame stress. Funny how you will trust two small bolts to hold up your front end on the...

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Thank you guys for the suggestions. :) I dont think you realize how strong 3/16 is! Now If you are running a standard SBC with no frills, they are way strong enough W/O sleeves. But making them lighter is not the whole purpose. Dimpling is just a rediculous thought for this application...

O yea, no hard feelings at all. I understand. They are not for function, they are for looks. I thought thats what rat rod were about? unique-ness. But you dont have to fill in the holes to gain any strength. I guarantee they are not shade tree at all. I done them both ways, and drilled...

It's called dimpled. 3/16 does not need dimpling. That's for use mostly in aircraft! They don't even make a dimplier that's big enough to dimple 3/16. But I understood what you meant. Thanks for your ideas, but they are not needed. Go read my add again and you will understand how these...

Thanks guy for all the great comments! I am not trying to scam anyone. If you don't like me that's fine. And no offense to any comments above but some of you have no clue what you are talking about! Engendering 101... X0X0 pattern. Channeled steel.. That cracks me up. And why would you...