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Old 11-22-2021, 01:07 PM
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That's a very cool setup
I'm sure you'll get a lot of "what is that suspension?"

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Old 11-22-2021, 01:25 PM
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Very Cool, Bob. I have two farm wagons made out of old cars and neither one of them has as nice of a tongue hitch as yours. I studied that front end quite a bit because of the suspension set up, which I may eventually steal. The concept, Bob, not the axle, no, no, not for a moment did I think of stealing your axle.
You picked a really good axle to put under the Hupmobile, unique and era correct.
Keep on tinkering.
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Old 11-22-2021, 01:27 PM
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There's a rat rod 28 Chevy locally that has quarter elliptics on the front. His is very poorly designed such the the mounting brackets make it so the spring has no travel and there is effectively no suspension on the front.

I'm sure you'll do a lot better, Bob.
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Old 11-22-2021, 07:48 PM
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Snopro, I've built two roadsters with quarter elliptics in front. On this one I'll stick with the design Chevrolet provided. Just put a different axle on it.
The bolts came out fairly easily and the broken, obsolete axle is in the scrap pile. The pics are bad but you can tell there's two main leaves per side. Bottom one has a 9/16" hole and the top one has a 1" slotted hole. A shoulder bolt fastens the spring to the axle. The slot allows movement as the spring works. The bottom main leaf holds it all in alignment.
As you can see, there's heavy duty brackets holding the eleven leaf spring packs on the back end.

I do believe there will be caster change on bumps. Since the spring is fairly long, and if suspension travel in not too much, it will probably be okay. We'll see...

I don't see any provision for a shock absorber. Wondering if Chevrolet relies on the friction in the large spring pack to dampen the action.
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Old 11-29-2021, 07:31 PM
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A friend came by today and made me take these Tru Spoke wheels with tires. Been sitting indoors a long time. Two 14's and two 15's. Possibly I'll use them on the Hupmobile. Or maybe not.
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Old 11-29-2021, 10:36 PM
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Nice setup, nice friend
They would look great on the hupmobile
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Old 11-29-2021, 10:39 PM
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Wire wheels are the cat's meow, Bob, don't you know.
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Old 12-04-2021, 11:28 PM
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Bob, I was over a friends place today for a visit and his son came into the shop to work and visit. The subject got around to old cars. Here's the sons car; a Hupmobile. He is putting it back together completely stock.
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Old 12-05-2021, 07:12 PM
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Nice Hup,, Mac.

I measured the front axles in my stash and none of them will work with the splayed quarter elliptic springs. The mounting point for the springs is too wide. Way beyond the spring pads on the axles and into the area where the beam turns up.
In the interest of convenience, I've selected this '37 (I think) Chevy axle. The drums are already drilled for 4 1/2" bolt pattern. As luck would have it, the springs are the correct length to fit the mounting points on the Dodge frame.

In thinking about the other set up, it was designed 1915 and not used for many years. Maybe there's good reason.
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Old 12-08-2021, 09:07 PM
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Took the leaf springs apart and cleaned the surface rust off the leaves. Dismantled the '28 Dodge steering box that came with the frame. It is a large Ross box and looks great inside. The '37 Chevy axle I got for 20 bucks from a shop that put a Mustang II in the front of the guy's coupe. The frame is about 15 inches too long. I can fix that. Here's the look I'm going for. This, or this, but not the front higher than the rear.
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