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Old 02-09-2021, 08:39 PM
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Mac. Yours will look nicer. My dad painted his with a brush. It looks great for a brush job. But would have looked better sprayed. He did a few that way. One he did was a Massey Harris Pony. A lot smaller. He had a couple of Allis Chalmers and a few Farmalls.
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Old 02-10-2021, 12:53 AM
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Kenny, I hope to spray this tractor. I agree that spraying paint looks a way better.
Dutch, That's the old way with PTOs. There is a tin sleeve over the PTO shaft that runs on plastic bushings. The safety sleeve just stops turning when it get in contact with anything.
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Old 02-10-2021, 12:59 AM
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I welded up the biggish crack in the exhaust manifold with partial success. Near the end I started chasing new cracks.
I painted the intake and then mounted them together.
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Old 02-11-2021, 10:41 PM
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It's my job to get the secondary things ready for the motor. I thought to get a bellhousing ready to go. For Chrysler flatheads there are at least five different bellhousings, a marine one, a tractor one, a combine one, a car one and a truck one, and I needed a tractor one. #1 pic is a tractor bell on a longer flathead, the motor I'm rebuilding is out of a combine.
Not much progress happened today. I took the dust pan off the bottom. On pre-1962 Chryslers you have to take the flywheel off before you take the bellhousing off. Before you take the flywheel off you have to take the pressure plate off. Before you take the pressure plate off you should take the clutch cross-shaft out. Before you take the pressure plate off you should find out if you can turn the motor over, so you can get at the other half of the bolts. So I have quite a few jobs partly done and now I'm going to have to take this motor apart and break it free so I can get it turning over.
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Old 02-12-2021, 06:19 AM
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Sounds almost like the order is in the reverse of most. Leave it to Chiseler, I mean Chrysler. It a good thing you are experienced at this. Good luck.
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Old 02-12-2021, 09:29 AM
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It wasn't just Chrysler that done some funky stuff back then.
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Old 02-12-2021, 01:29 PM
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I have some good news. Last night I was talking to an old friend who is a tractor guy. He is also an old Chrysler guy, [had a few Hemi's in big trucks and has a sweet '41 Plymouth coupe]. He told me a bellhousing removal trick that probably will work. The reason you have to take the flywheel off, is there are mounting pins from the engine block to the front side of the bellhousing, inwards from the circumference. Well, if you drive those pins back out of the engine block, you can lift the bell straight up off the flywheel. Then I can get the pressure plate off, but I think the flywheel bolts go in from the front, maybe, so I might still have to get the motor freed up. The picture shows the front of a pre-'62 V-8 bellhousing, but you can see why I can't take it off straight back like newer bells.
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Old 02-12-2021, 09:04 PM
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I have some good news. Last night I was talking to an old friend who is a tractor guy. He is also an old Chrysler guy, [had a few Hemi's in big trucks and has a sweet '41 Plymouth coupe]. He told me a bellhousing removal trick that probably will work. The reason you have to take the flywheel off, is there are mounting pins from the engine block to the front side of the bellhousing, inwards from the circumference. Well, if you drive those pins back out of the engine block, you can lift the bell straight up off the flywheel. Then I can get the pressure plate off, but I think the flywheel bolts go in from the front, maybe, so I might still have to get the motor freed up. The picture shows the front of a pre-'62 V-8 bellhousing, but you can see why I can't take it off straight back like newer bells.
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Old 02-12-2021, 10:43 PM
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Well, it turns out that you can't quite hammer the alignment dowels right out on this unit. I got them about 7/8 of the way and then they stopped dead. Even with the bolts out of the bellhousing and it pushed back 3/16" the dowels didn't quite come out of the engine block. 'Close' is only good in horseshoes and hand-grenades. It doesn't get an old Chrysler bellhousing off. Grumbling, I took the head off the motor and trimmed down a block to start beating pistons down. I finally broke that block and made another. The second block did get the crank to turn a little more than a quarter inch. When #2 block broke, I gave up.
Stress pressure makes me think better sometimes. I put a cutting blade on my angle grinder and reached in between the engine block and the bellhousing and cut the dowels off in less than a minute, then lifted the bellhousing straight up. It was easy to take the pressure plate off after that. In one picture I circled the cut off alignment dowels.
I also made an exhaust outlet gasket.
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