CASH for Clunkers?
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This kind of thing has been around for a while:
usnews/States-Offering-Cash-for-Clunkers/
The problem is the theory that it is environmentally friendly by reducing higher emission vehicles, but ignores the comparatively large environmental impact of producing a new car. It's almost as if it is a push by the auto companies rather than the greenies. Kinda like the fact that a Prius has a larger 'carbon footprint' than a Hummer, calculated over the useful life span of the Hummer (a Prius is figured to need 3 battery changes during that period). I could continue to ramble on....but I won't.
usnews/States-Offering-Cash-for-Clunkers/
The problem is the theory that it is environmentally friendly by reducing higher emission vehicles, but ignores the comparatively large environmental impact of producing a new car. It's almost as if it is a push by the auto companies rather than the greenies. Kinda like the fact that a Prius has a larger 'carbon footprint' than a Hummer, calculated over the useful life span of the Hummer (a Prius is figured to need 3 battery changes during that period). I could continue to ramble on....but I won't.
hotrod preacher
"Official RRR Chaplain"
my 2 cents..
anytime the government "experts" get involved...there's usually stupidty involved...they never see the big picture
anytime the government "experts" get involved...there's usually stupidty involved...they never see the big picture
goose-em
Well-known member
I love government bueracracy they will never cease to amaze. While there at it why don't they offer cash for old inefficeint houses?
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Bonehead
Skull Master
That is because there is money involved. Some one will make a buck. That is what this country is based on.
donsrods
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This is a perfect example of how stupid laws get passed. Some Congressman(or Woman) sees a situation and thinks "Hey, I've got the perfect solution to solving it." They see it as a Win Win situation because (A) it gets rid of old cars that everyone knows are inefficient, unsafe, and polluters......and then (B) everyone can go out and buy a shiny new car that gets umteen mpg, has lots of safety stuff, and doesn't pollute as much. WOW, this is a GREAT idea!!
Problem is, they forget that (A) Some people LIKE old cars (you and me) and (B) not everyone can afford to buy a brand new car. But the scarey part is that John Q Public is in the majority in this country and John is not a car lover. He frankly doesn't give a d*** about what we like, and in fact he HATES the noise our cars make and the way they look........they are.........different. And WE are different.
If it wasn't for organizations like SEMA and other groups we would have all been driving miniboxes with 2 cylinder engines years ago. I just hope they are able to keep the wolves away from our doors a little longer.
Don
Problem is, they forget that (A) Some people LIKE old cars (you and me) and (B) not everyone can afford to buy a brand new car. But the scarey part is that John Q Public is in the majority in this country and John is not a car lover. He frankly doesn't give a d*** about what we like, and in fact he HATES the noise our cars make and the way they look........they are.........different.
And WE are different. If it wasn't for organizations like SEMA and other groups we would have all been driving miniboxes with 2 cylinder engines years ago. I just hope they are able to keep the wolves away from our doors a little longer.
Don
Bonehead
Skull Master
Update from SEMA
Our efforts to prevent Congress from including a nationwide “Cash for Clunkers” program in the economic stimulus package has been successful – so far. Thousands of SEMA Action Network (SAN) enthusiasts and SEMA members contacted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in opposition to the plan. The Speaker’s Office informed us that your emails, calls and faxes were received and, thanks to your work, Cash for Clunkers was not included in the economic stimulus package introduced in mid-January in the House of Representatives. Unfortunately, new legislation (S. 247 and H.R. 520) has been introduced in Congress to create a national vehicle scrappage program which will give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in their “gas guzzlers” to have them crushed. Lawmakers need to scrap this idea!
Contact Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) and Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) Immediately
to Oppose S. 247 and H.R. 520
The so-called “Accelerated Retirement of Inefficient Vehicles Act” is Cash for Clunkers with a twist. Instead of focusing exclusively on older cars, this program would target vehicles with low fuel economy ratings of any model year. Participants would receive cash vouchers ranging from $2,500 to $4,500 based on the model year and whether the replacement vehicle was a more fuel-efficient new car or used car (MY 2004 or later). Fuel-efficient is defined as getting at least 25 percent better mileage for the corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) target for its class. The bill sponsors want to scrap up to one million cars a year for at least four years.
There is no evidence that the program would achieve the goal of boosting new car sales or increasing fuel mileage. Many states have considered scrappage programs in the past as a way to help clean the air or increase mpg, but abandoned the effort because they simply don’t work. The programs are not cost-effective and do not achieve verifiable air quality or fuel economy benefits, but they do have a devastating impact on the many small businesses that market products and services for the scrapped cars.
Our efforts to prevent Congress from including a nationwide “Cash for Clunkers” program in the economic stimulus package has been successful – so far. Thousands of SEMA Action Network (SAN) enthusiasts and SEMA members contacted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in opposition to the plan. The Speaker’s Office informed us that your emails, calls and faxes were received and, thanks to your work, Cash for Clunkers was not included in the economic stimulus package introduced in mid-January in the House of Representatives. Unfortunately, new legislation (S. 247 and H.R. 520) has been introduced in Congress to create a national vehicle scrappage program which will give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in their “gas guzzlers” to have them crushed. Lawmakers need to scrap this idea!
Contact Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) and Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) Immediately
to Oppose S. 247 and H.R. 520
The so-called “Accelerated Retirement of Inefficient Vehicles Act” is Cash for Clunkers with a twist. Instead of focusing exclusively on older cars, this program would target vehicles with low fuel economy ratings of any model year. Participants would receive cash vouchers ranging from $2,500 to $4,500 based on the model year and whether the replacement vehicle was a more fuel-efficient new car or used car (MY 2004 or later). Fuel-efficient is defined as getting at least 25 percent better mileage for the corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) target for its class. The bill sponsors want to scrap up to one million cars a year for at least four years.
There is no evidence that the program would achieve the goal of boosting new car sales or increasing fuel mileage. Many states have considered scrappage programs in the past as a way to help clean the air or increase mpg, but abandoned the effort because they simply don’t work. The programs are not cost-effective and do not achieve verifiable air quality or fuel economy benefits, but they do have a devastating impact on the many small businesses that market products and services for the scrapped cars.
51Cards
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This kind of thing has been around for a while:
usnews/States-Offering-Cash-for-Clunkers/
The problem is the theory that it is environmentally friendly by reducing higher emission vehicles, but ignores the comparatively large environmental impact of producing a new car. It's almost as if it is a push by the auto companies rather than the greenies. Kinda like the fact that a Prius has a larger 'carbon footprint' than a Hummer, calculated over the useful life span of the Hummer (a Prius is figured to need 3 battery changes during that period). I could continue to ramble on....but I won't.
I don't worry much about that as I usually out bid Uncle Sam 9 outta 10 times.
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