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[Willowbilly3]

I know some of you guys are into this so I have to ask your opinions on this, what's the attraction to skulls, spider webs, swastikas and that sort of stuff. I know it has all been around a long time. At this years Sturgis Bike rally I noticed about half the T-shirts had skulls or bones so a lot of people like the theme.

 

[cantwell.colton]

i dont know about the swastikas - but the rest is mostly a sub-culture type thing... some people build hotrods/ratrods - but some people embrace the
""good ole days"" rockabilly/psychobilly - hotrodder culture - just like some people just ride harley davidsons - and some people live the harley biker sub-culture - and some people are in between somewhere- its just what some people are into i guess.

i also listen to pretty dark music, love zombie movies, etc

like you said, im sure it has a lot to do with - just holding on to a little of that culture from back in the days - i would think back then - all of the skulls and such were a little bit of a culture shock to your every day leave it to beaver person... "dont hang out with THOSE trouble makers!!"" mom said.

 

[HOT40ROD]

I read some were were it stated after WW II a lot of guy came home and felt that they were outlaws and started riding motorcycle and forming groups and adopted these symbol as there statement. It went on from there.

The swastikes and iron crosses were both nazi related and a sign against society. The skull and cross bones were pirate symbols and also means death to those who see it.

You means symbols like this. My shop logo.

 

[rainman]

The Iron Cross was around much earlier than that. Supposedly was formed I think in the 17th century by the Maultese (not sure of my spelling, or facts). I believe these symbols are used for there shock value, much like some piercings, and hair styles you see today. Me I just think their cool.

 

[HOT40ROD]

The Iron Cross was around much earlier than that. Supposedly was formed I think in the 17th century by the Maultese (not sure of my spelling, or facts). I believe these symbols are used for there shock value, much like some piercings, and hair styles you see today. Me I just think their cool.

The iron cross was first used as a medal of valor by King Frederick William III of Prussia against the French in 1813.

In Sept of 1939 Hitler reinstitued the Iron cross to his troops. There was a second class cross which was given to most of his main troops and a First class cross that was given for acts of bravery. It was also given for marksmanship. During WW II American GI seen this medal most of the time they encounter the Germans and it was a looked at as a symbol the enemy. I have my grandfathers marksmanship medal from WW II.

The US also uses the Iron Cross for marksmanship and sharp shooter

 

[Willowbilly3]

So the skull is more of just a nostalgia thing ? I am curious about the roots if the people using it now are just mimicking an earlier trend for nostalgia sake. I guess it's just one of those things I don't understand the original significance of.
Did it come from the Jolly Rodger?
BTW< I do know the basic roots of the swastika. It is a symbol that goes back a lot further than the Nazis but it is now almost totally recognized as a Nazi thing symbol. I actually have a couple old tools from the early 1900s that have it as a trademark.

 

[Sam_Fear]

Would you rather we were all into My Little Pony, Dolphins, and Unicorns?

 

[HOT40ROD]

So the skull is more of just a nostalgia thing ? I am curious about the roots if the people using it now are just mimicking an earlier trend for nostalgia sake. I guess it's just one of those things I don't understand the original significance of.
Did it come from the Jolly Rodger?
BTW< I do know the basic roots of the swastika. It is a symbol that goes back a lot further than the Nazis but it is now almost totally recognized as a Nazi thing symbol. I actually have a couple old tools from the early 1900s that have it as a trademark.

The swastika was not looked at as a bad thing before WW II. If I remember right it was an symbol of Sun, Power, strength and Good look.

 

[cantwell.colton]

i like my little pony and unicorns - but dolphins? cmon now - thats a little girly dont you think?

 

[the reverend muddy grimes]

dolfins are only girly if they are the Miami kind

 

[Reign]

The Iron Cross was around much earlier than that. Supposedly was formed I think in the 17th century by the Maultese (not sure of my spelling, or facts). I believe these symbols are used for there shock value, much like some piercings, and hair styles you see today. Me I just think their cool.

You are confusing the Iron Cross with the Maltese Cross. The Maltese Cross (universal symbol for the fire service) was originated by the Knights of Malta. The were one of the first "protectors" of society from fires. Also known as "keepers of the hearth" after the Greek god Vulcan (god of the hearth, keeper of the hearth)

 

[Johnny Gamble]

Would you rather we were all into My Little Pony, Dolphins, and Unicorns?

Actually i am into My little pony, and Unicorns, but not big on dolphins.. I also like Rainbow Bright and Strawberry shortcake.. But i also like skulls and webs and the movie the exorcist.. [S i like candy land and pornos and mixing it all together sometimes too?? I mean come on, no one else likes this stuff?

 

[Sam_Fear]

Skulls have, since the beginning of recorded time and before, been a 'sub-culture' thing before there was a sub-culture.

 

[Sniper]

Well......that just took a left turn, do I hear something spooling up?????[ddd

 

[LarryH]

I like dolphins. They taste just like tuna.

 

[Bonehead]

I like unicorn skulls...

and dolfin skulls too

 

[earthman]

Don't die yet thread! I have an important contribution

 

[Sam_Fear]

Earthman! If I woulda been drinking coffee, things woulda gotten ugly.

 

[Sam_Fear]

Still laughing....

Leave it to Bonehead to come up with a skull unicorn.

 

[Lightning]

Did you know that there was a car manufacturer in the U.S. that had a swastika as it's logo ? It was called the KRIT CAR COMPANY in Detroit, Mich.