Frame Notch Based On Strength After lt's Modified To Clear The Axlel

Rat Rods Rule

Help Support Rat Rods Rule:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Yeah....doesn't show the way I did mine..

went with 2x4 box .250 wall....3 times longer than the c notch....welded that into frame first...then cut out the C notch through both the frame and the 2x4 box tube...then welded in 1/4" 6" half pipe to bottom of cut out....3 times as thick as the frame and probably 100% stronger....only part that could be weak is if the welds were crappy....which they are not.....normally I over engineer stuff....cause I don't like surprises...LOL...attached a shot before I trimmed off the excess....
 

Attachments

  • Mar13_0011.jpg
    Mar13_0011.jpg
    11.9 KB
Good article in general but as an engineer myself I question his analysis.

1. he does not state the loads used to calculate the bending moment

2. The deep pipe notch FEA appears to consider loading on both ends of the frame. However the spring is mounted in front of the notch. As such there is no load behind the spring other than the shock absorbers so I doubt this is accurate. Once again without telling us how much load was used during the FEA this data is useless.

3. If you plan to carry a load in the bed or tow a trailer then I agree with his findings, However, if you are the typical hot rodder you typically do not plan this so you could just cut the frame off behind the shock mounts and it would make no difference.

4. The sections look to be fairly short and do not appear to take into account the strength of the body/bed that will be affixed to the frame. The bed itself will also add strength to the frame. Take a look at a box semi trailer, most of the strength comes from the side walls and the "beam" along the top two sides. Rip open the sidewall and the trailer fails.

Okay so I am getting all technical here but FEA is only as good as the data that was input.

Without knowing the input data this information is fairly unhelpfull, at least to me.


I do howevr agree with the comment of weld quality and fabrication skills.

I think pontiacs design should fair well as long as he does not load the back of the bed with some crazy weight.
 
Only weight in the back will be the fuel tank..

And that will be at the front of the bed behind the cab....so weight really isn't a factor...I'd be curious as to the load calulations used to obtain those percentages myself...not an engineer but still question the figures.....JMHO
 
My guess is this spawned from ongoing arguments about what notch is better than what. Seems he's just making a informed statement about which notches are stronger or weaker. Really, like you say, it's all moot for the average set up on a hot rod, there will be little stress on it anyway.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top