Global what???

[EnglishBob]

 

[rainman]

If you were here you'd know the answer to that Question. 85 and humid.

 

[Ratcrazy]

yep this removes any doubts, here it is May 27th and I know now Al Gore is full of it now........

 

[Daman]

3 foot fell a little over 1 1/2 hours from here.

 

[hotrod preacher]

seems to me the weather is just crazy---everywhere!

 

[donsrods]

Well, the new term isn't Global Warming now but rather Climate Change. The earlier term led people to believe everyplace would be warmer, and that isn't the case. Some will be warmer, some colder, and everyone will be seeing weather unlike anything they have seen historically.

For example, this was the hardest winter we have had in years in Florida. Very low temps for very extended periods of time. We generally would get a cold day or two and then it would rebound, but this year we had weeks and weeks of weather you didn't want to be out in. I actually had to scrape ice off of my windows of my car in the morning so I could see to drive.

So as much as we poo poo Al and his prophecies, when was the last time you saw 3 feet of snow this late in the Spring? I know the experts can't agree on it, but there are changes happening for sure. I know we won't all agree on this subject and I expect that.

Don

 

[HOT40ROD]

seems to me the weather is just crazy---everywhere!

Tell me about it. yesterday I was out working on the motorcycles. It was nice so I decided to work on them out side. 85 and sunny. Just like that A storm came up out of no were with gulf ball size hail then the temp dropped to about 70 and breezy.

want to talk about get your stuff inside quick. Also need to check the Harley f150 for dents today.

 

[andreasklapp]

on the one hand i firmly believe we need to do something to stave off the destruction of the planet (and ourselves), and on the other i understand we've only REALLY been recording weather for a very short amount of time(in the grand scheme of things). i don't remember myself, but i know a few people who do, remember when you could drink the water out of a lot of places without having to filter it, when eating fish everyday wouldn't give you mercury poisoning, when it was definitely going to snow a lot at least once a year where my family is from. i can only see where we are at now. they put a nuclear power plant about 20 miles away from where my mom lives, now all the ground water is contaminated. they dam up rivers (the wrong way) now there aren't as many fish. you could go on and on with facts from both sides, and really there is truth to all of it, but the only real fact is we all have to learn from the past and apply to the future using newer more innovative thought and technology to allow us to live in harmony with what is around us or eventually we just won't live anymore. some of it just doesn't make sense to me. you look at the way a dam is built, and think about the way water flows. i don't think you need to stop the water to provide the head to turn a turbine. i think if we used up to date technology we could put lots of turbines in rivers in place of one big dam and put them parallel with the flow of the water and produce just as much if not more power than we are right now. you think about how old some of the dams are, and then think about how much smaller computers have gotten in the past ten years. where i'm from they have a lot of dams they don't even use because of the nuke plant, but they are still there messing up the river. the river's old name (sinnissippi) means "clear running water", but NOBODY remembers the last time you could see to the bottom. i just think we need to change. i'm not really placing any blame, i'm not pointing any fingers, i'm not claiming to have any answers, but it's really sad. they hollow out mountains where my family is from. they rip out 2000 year old trees for nothing where i live now. they just keep building newer and newer and less and less efficient and more detrimental structures everywhere rather than use what's already there. it's really got to change. sorry for the rant, i just think about some of this a lot. i keep feathers and have family on the rez.

 

[dmw56]

^^^
One hard to read long paragraph!

 

[Sam_Fear]

Well, the new term isn't Global Warming now but rather Climate Change. The earlier term led people to believe everyplace would be warmer, and that isn't the case. Some will be warmer, some colder, and everyone will be seeing weather unlike anything they have seen historically.
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So as much as we poo poo Al and his prophecies, when was the last time you saw 3 feet of snow this late in the Spring? I know the experts can't agree on it, but there are changes happening for sure. I know we won't all agree on this subject and I expect that.

Don

Uh, Don, they called it Global Warming because they said the planet would fall into a greenhouse positive feedback loop causing the planetary average temp to rise fast and dramatically therefore making Earth uninhabitable by humans within the next century. 'They' meaning Al Gore and friends. Unfortunately, those same people created a 'movement' that politicized and steamrolled the real science.

My bet is on sunspots and we're headed for a decade or 2 of colder than normal 'climate' (not weather).

It's extremely arrogant of us to think we can 'kill the planet'. The Earth will chew us up, bury us, and go about it's business just like the dino's. We ain't but nothin'.

 

[fuzz]

Advanced technology, govrnment control and corporate greed got us into this mess and so you can't exspect them to fix the problem. Yes, I believe the end is near!!..

 

[rainman]

Anyone who doesn't believe our presence has had an impact on this planet is walking around with blinders.

 

[pistolpete]

It's extremely arrogant of us to think we can 'kill the planet'. The Earth will chew us up, bury us, and go about it's business just like the dino's. We ain't but nothin'.

I couldnt have said it better myself. Has anyone seen Life Without People... basuically a tv documentary/science fiction of what would happen to the earth if people were wiped out in one fallow swoop, and how nature would take over the cities again and relclaim the world again. I find it almost comforting to know that if we dropped off life here would continue in one way shape or form. I had read in college in an architectural history class that is people disappeared right now, 1000yrs later if an alien life form came here they would assume the last life on earth was the egytians (without conducting mass archeological examinations that is), being as our structures will not stand the test of time the way the pyrimids have.

And on a slightly different note, my parents were married in 1979 mid June, and it snowed on their wedding day... almost 6" of snow. They have pictures that look like a storm of confeity leaving the church but it is actually snow.

 

[Hotrodsparky]

I agree with Andreasklapp, it is time we paid more attention to what we are doing. Sure, if we dropped off the face of the earth she would clean herself up just fine- but that's not likely to happen. We're not going anywhere, and it's silly to think that we are doing no real damage to the planet.
Extremists on both sides have muddied the waters for us, your either on this side or that side- imho, if you can't see both sides of every argument then you have one eye closed.
There have been ice ages, there will be more in the future, it's a natural cycle. To blame it all on man is stupid, but to claim no responsibility at all is equally stupid.
I'm for being careful, but not paranoid.....

 

[pistolpete]

I'm not naive enough to think that we have had no impact and or have not sped up the process. I just find some solace in the fact that even if we totally screw the pooch, that life will go on...

 

[rainman]

I don't worry so much for myself, But my grandchildren I worry about. Maybe just me.