Well I finally got a chance to bring home my frame.Took almost 2 months to complete but I could only work on it for a few minutes a day at our shop.I used our shop because we had a brand new Miller mig 220 welder and I got to be the first to check it out. I want to thanks several people for all of there help on my first frame build. ..Not in this order BUT thanks...Bonehead...Thank you sir for all of your help about stacking the frame..!! Donsrods...your frame build pics on Killbillet helped SO fricking much because no one knew what I wanted...( hint..plated on the inside of the frame with holes drilled so you could weld the plates in place,I think there called fish plates.?) AND the way you curled you frame around the front..I took pics of my own,not as nice BUT I am sure I made my point.. Ron Pope...THANKS for the custom made front spring perch..!! Couldnt find one 2 1/2 inches to save my life..DMW56,( Don..) frame was built after studying your build...well as close as I could get.Not much of a Z but this is my first so I LEARNED SO much...!!Thanks..and anyone I forgot...