Help with suspension geometry. Idea for front bags...What do you run?

[onebadolds]

Hey guys, Im always a little scared to post stuff like this.... Old hamber flash backs.... This is the set up Ive come up with to do hidden bags in the front of the 26 to enable me to run bags on all four corners. Please feel free to correct me on geometry... or tell me the correct geometry for this. OR if you have done it do you have pics and measurements.

Thank you guys. O yea... I know I cant spell...lol

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[93blazer4dr]

lol the hamb im on there also but they dont like me or my ideas because i dont know everything like they do.

it looks like a good setup but the shocks wont really work like they should being at the angle. try to get them to stand up more so they can work besides that i think it will work fine.

 

[Sam_Fear]

You might not even need the shocks if you don't plan on hard cornering. Bags act a little different than springs (so I hear). That or put the shocks on a L-bracket cantilever type system to change the vertical force to a horizontal force.

How about a arm extending down at the pivot point, perpendicular to the main arm. Hook you shocks to that at a horizontal. Might give you enough leverage.

 

[Sam_Fear]

Like this kinda:

 

[93blazer4dr]

or how about look at getting the shockwave air bags that got the shocks made in them.
they are not cheap but save alot of room and look nice
http://www.ridetech.com/store/suspe...s/1955-1957-chevy-shockwave-front-system.html

i no they say 55 but you can mount them to what ever you want just write them and let them no you need ones for the front.

 

[towb3]

It may not be what you are wanting, but if you search my posts for my build thread you will be able to see the setup I am using for the front. It can be a lot easier than we sometimes make it. I kept think of the "best" way to do it. WHen I finally caved in and bought a kit, I wanted to slap my forehead.

 

[onebadolds]

Like this kinda:

Thats looks awsome, but The only concern I have with that one is that at drop settings the shock would stick out the bottom... I think... My brain accually started to hurt thinking about this...LOL.

 

[towb3]

Sam_Fear. Would you not get better use of the shock being mounted axle to frame as opposed to the canti lift arm? Typically you would want better than 1:1 lift from your setup and in doing so that will cause the shock to adjust angle which would in turn change the dampening affect at different heights? And I may be thinking of coilovers. Sorry for the late rambling. Was just looking at the picture and it got me thinking.

edit: I guess it wouldn't be much different than running it on the axle to the frame. ugh. got me thinking now.

 

[Sam_Fear]

Sam_Fear. Would you not get better use of the shock being mounted axle to frame as opposed to the canti lift arm? Typically you would want better than 1:1 lift from your setup and in doing so that will cause the shock to adjust angle which would in turn change the dampening affect at different heights? And I may be thinking of coilovers. Sorry for the late rambling. Was just looking at the picture and it got me thinking.

edit: I guess it wouldn't be much different than running it on the axle to the frame. ugh. got me thinking now.

I just slapped that up so Onebadolds would get the idea of what I was trying to say. Yeah, the canti -arm isn't placed the best, but it is way better than the original. The arm should probably be as close to perpendicular to the shock as possible - that way the swing wouldn't affect the dampening effect as much. Not even sure having it at the pivot is the best?

 

[towb3]

Don't know if you can see it, but the shock tab is just under the pivot. This is the rear setup I will be using. But to do something similar on the front would probably call for a pretty small shock, but could be made to work. It would be pretty cool though. Would be almost like a floating axle look if you could find a way to hide most of it.

Oh, guess I should credit Suicide Doors for the picture.

 

[onebadolds]

Don't know if you can see it, but the shock tab is just under the pivot. This is the rear setup I will be using. But to do something similar on the front would probably call for a pretty small shock, but could be made to work. It would be pretty cool though. Would be almost like a floating axle look if you could find a way to hide most of it.

Oh, guess I should credit Suicide Doors for the picture.

OOO, I like that much easier set up. Ill have to check that out.

If you do it right, it would look like a simple set of friction shocks... Hide it all....[cl

 

[towb3]

Oh, again, this is for the rear. lol. It would take up a lot of space in the front haha. But could be sized down and used up front. If I am not mistaking, I think I have seen a setup for the front that was similar to this but WAY smaller.