I was cruising around the web today and found a site called.."Rod Plans" and he has plans to build a 4 bar for the rear.I was wondering if anyone has been to this site and what do you think of his plans.? Would a 4 bar set-up be easy to use for the street..?Or stick to just rear hair pins with coil overs for the back.?
Is a four bar good for the street.?
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dmw56
Busted and Rusted on Route 66
4 bar is probably the best set up front and rear.
roddguy1
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Four bar is what I have on the front of mine. When you study the advantages it offers it's a great way to go.
ANNAMEL
Well-known member
Yep, Thats the route I have used on racecars for years and doing it on rod.
Gastrick
One of the Dirty Dozen!
As previously stated, yes the 4 bar would be my choice for the rear....especially with coil-overs.
Gearhead10
Well-known member
Thats what my plans are on my IH pickup. Run a 4 bar link with swedge tubes and tie rod ends just like a dirt mod has. That way if something should happen to break or wear out I can just call the local speed shop or racer buddy and get parts.
Bonehead
Skull Master
I could never be an attorney, because I can never pass the bar. ( 4 bars are better than 3)
Plans for the 4 bar set-up arrived.
Just opened the plans sent to me by Rod Plans.He states that you can BUILD these cheaper then you can buy them...LMAO....NOT..!! I ran a check on a few of the parts he says to use and the DOM tubing alone is almost 125.00,which doesnt leave much money to build the rest..!! Bushings for this set-up cost 9.00 dollars a piece and you need 8.Threw the cost of flat steel needed PLUS various nuts and bolts and the cost is well over 300.00 dollars.Hmmmm...The total cost for this set-up from Speedway is 229.00.I dont see how it is cheaper...
Just opened the plans sent to me by Rod Plans.He states that you can BUILD these cheaper then you can buy them...LMAO....NOT..!! I ran a check on a few of the parts he says to use and the DOM tubing alone is almost 125.00,which doesnt leave much money to build the rest..!! Bushings for this set-up cost 9.00 dollars a piece and you need 8.Threw the cost of flat steel needed PLUS various nuts and bolts and the cost is well over 300.00 dollars.Hmmmm...The total cost for this set-up from Speedway is 229.00.I dont see how it is cheaper...
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I bought a rear from a caddy limo that had triangulated bars already installed for $60 off craigslist. I think a triangulated 4 bar is a cheap, easy, and safe way to go. It came from a Caddy limo around 84' but, I think there are a lot of GM cars out there that were equiped. Hairpins in the rear sound sketchy, I know they work but, if I have torque I want something that won't bend easily. My 2 cents...
I bought a rear from a caddy limo that had triangulated bars already installed for $60 off craigslist. I think a triangulated 4 bar is a cheap, easy, and safe way to go. It came from a Caddy limo around 84' but, I think there are a lot of GM cars out there that were equiped. Hairpins in the rear sound sketchy, I know they work but, if I have torque I want something that won't bend easily. My 2 cents...
russellmn
New member
Just opened the plans sent to me by Rod Plans.He states that you can BUILD these cheaper then you can buy them...LMAO....NOT..!! I ran a check on a few of the parts he says to use and the DOM tubing alone is almost 125.00,which doesnt leave much money to build the rest..!! Bushings for this set-up cost 9.00 dollars a piece and you need 8.Threw the cost of flat steel needed PLUS various nuts and bolts and the cost is well over 300.00 dollars.Hmmmm...The total cost for this set-up from Speedway is 229.00.I dont see how it is cheaper...
Yeah I'm new here, but I had to comment on this... What material are you pricing out that runs $125??? How long??? you can use Jeep YJ Wrangler leaf spring bushings in 1.5" tube for the bushings. Flat plate is just 1/8" or 3/16" if you want overkill. I just linked up my Jeep CJ5 and if you don't count the 1.25" heim joints that you wouldn't need for a hot rod, I probably have $50 in the setup.
Prices.
Well I dont know if you have a source for metal BUT DOM tubing runs 7.00 dollars a foot here and there is only 2 places that carry it.Metal Mart is one of them.In fact I paid 13 dollars foot for some DOM tubing that was 3 feet long and 2 1/2 dia.The gentleman who sends you those plans tells you what bushings to use and NOT to use Jeep bushings.The bushings he tells you to use work best with his plans,why? I dont have a clue.Flat steel you need comes in various sizes and different prices,but buy more,its cheaper.I ran the whole list to several people and some I know that run metal shops and the prices seem to match each other.The plates that need to be cut MUST be either done on a laser CNC OR a water jet machine.Factor into the cost..( sorry I dont have either..) and the price jumps out of sight.
Well I dont know if you have a source for metal BUT DOM tubing runs 7.00 dollars a foot here and there is only 2 places that carry it.Metal Mart is one of them.In fact I paid 13 dollars foot for some DOM tubing that was 3 feet long and 2 1/2 dia.The gentleman who sends you those plans tells you what bushings to use and NOT to use Jeep bushings.The bushings he tells you to use work best with his plans,why? I dont have a clue.Flat steel you need comes in various sizes and different prices,but buy more,its cheaper.I ran the whole list to several people and some I know that run metal shops and the prices seem to match each other.The plates that need to be cut MUST be either done on a laser CNC OR a water jet machine.Factor into the cost..( sorry I dont have either..) and the price jumps out of sight.
BigIrish
Well-known member
I imagine the Jeep bushings are too soft, according to him. The ones that come on kits from speedway, others have stiff urethane bushings. Probably keeps the rear from getting too far out of wack under load.
