Metric System, Lost secrets of the ancients

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The metric system? based on any idiots ability to count on his fingers and toes if they haven't lost them yet
Base 12 predates human science. It arose from counting on 12 fingers 6 on each hand. It's a system of math said since the earliest writings pre-dating our sciences to have been given to man by "the gods".
Decimal system base 10 numerals 0-9 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,(1&0) 10,(1&0+1) or 11 arose from counting on 10 fingers.
computer language- hexadecimal base 6... 1-6 then you start over 1,2,3,4,5,6,6+1,6+2,6+3 arose from the first processor having 6 bytes

The French Revolution gave rise to the metric system so you can pretty much say the metric system is socialist lol.
But to be kind. the metric system came from a desire to measure (scientifically) in units of base 10 which are intellectually arbitrary mathematical units. They are not the experimentally derived empirical units discovered by observation which they replace but they would have no practical application without the empirical discoveries.
Essentially employing the metric system will make you a very good measurer but not so much a knowledge of what those measurements mean.

The foot being the length of a kings foot or the inch being the width of a kings thumb... a "rule of thumb" invented so the common idiot can understand what an inch is without having the education to know that an inch is roughly 1/12th (base 12 remember 6 fingered sky gods) of a cubit.
And a cubit is a unit of of earth geometry derived from a 360 day trip around the sun as it relates to the earth's radius.
The Giza campus in Egypt embodies Babylonian (base 60), divine(base12) and modern human(base 10) math in the same structure.
It is a Rosetta stone for science. of you wish to preserve knowledge throughout ages across apocalypse and the rise and fall of civilizations, you speak it with architecture written in stone.




WHY 360 degrees of angle in a circle?
Babylonian number system was base 60, (sexagesimal numeric system) there were 60 different numerals instead of 0-9 as in the Arabian system one for every day of their year.

The degree is derived from the Babylonian base 60 numerical system.
Hours and minutes are similarly divided into 60's (of course, there are minutes of time and minutes of angle - there are 60 minutes in a degree, and, similarly,
there are seconds of time and seconds of degree - there are 60 seconds
in a minute, 3600 in a degree).

Time and circles are measured the same.

Babylonians subdivided the circle using the angle of an equilateral triangle as the basic unit and further subdivided the latter into 60 parts following their sexagesimal numeric system. The earliest trigonometry, used by the Babylonian astronomers and their Greek successors, was based on chords of a circle. A chord of length equal to the radius made a natural base quantity. One sixtieth of this, using their standard sexagesimal divisions, was a degree.

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In most mathematical work beyond practical geometry, angles are typically measured in radians rather than degrees. This is for a variety of reasons; for example, the trigonometric functions have simpler and more "natural" properties when their arguments are expressed in radians. These considerations outweigh the convenient divisibility of the number 360. One complete turn (360°) is equal to 2π radians, so 180° is equal to π radians, or equivalently, the degree is a mathematical constant: 1° = π⁄180.

The turn (or revolution, full circle, full rotation, cycle) is used in technology and science. 1 turn = 360°.



Geometry is the greek word for earth measure, using angles with predictably moving stars to measure the earth in ancient times, as the Greek unit of length, the stade, is 600 greek feet (of 12.16 modern inches), which just happens to be 1/10th of a modern nautical mile, and no mere coincidence, because five greek stadia compose the base perimeter length of the Great Pyramid of Giza, also surveyed by geometry, the measure of the earth by the stars, by measuring apparent movement of the stars because of the slow wobble of the earth’s axis (see article #2 under http://IceAgeCivilizations.com), which would cycle once in 25,920 years. So applying the simple hexagon geometry to the circle of the earth; they measured time by this rate, 72 years per 1 degree of 360, and so could measure earth distances.

The ancient Greeks, the offspring of Javan and Peleg in the Bible in Genesis 10, subdivided 1/3,600th of the earth’s radius (the same length as one side of the earth hexagon) by 10 to establish the length of the stade, composed of 600 greek feet of 12.16 modern inches, so if we lengthened the modern inch by just a smidge, then the modern english foot would be earth commensurate; the original value for the foot from the ancient Greeks.

The ancient Egyptians, the Misraim of Genesis 10 (Egypt is called Misr to this day), subdivided the radius of the earth by 7,200 to establish the base perimeter length for the Great Pyramid, and because they incorported pi into the dimensions of the Great Pyramid, they subdivided their envisioned base perimeter length by 1,760 cubits (440 cubits per base side), so that with the height of the GP at 280 cubits, the pi relationship was indeed embodied in its dimensions.

So with the capability to navigate the globe by geometry, the ancients sailed to fur-flung locales during the Ice Age, which followed the Deluge, as the ancient historical evidence indicates; the many legends, corroborating historical accounts, and much ancient precession mapping evidence, such as the Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings, the Piri Reis and Oronteus Finaeus Maps for instance, which show Ice Age coastlines of Antarctica and South America when the sea level was lower, before it rose with the end of the Ice Age to submerge many ancient coastal port structures circa 1500 B.C., when the climate changed to cause the great deserts of the earth (see category Catastrophic Climate Change here).


I'm just hitting the tip of the iceberg here, You would need to be an astronomer with ancient knowledge to fully understand the true source of imperial measurements.

But of course...were just idiots who can only count to 10 and then have to start over.
Why educate a man beyond his station they say...
If anyone ever tells you again a foot is the kings foot, an inch is the kings thumb, or a cubit is the length of a forearm feel empowered to call them an idiot and highlight the fullness of their miseducation.
 
How many people know that zero celcius is the freezing point of water
On the Fahrenheit scale, the freezing point of water is 32 degrees Fahrenheit (°F) and the boiling point 212 °F (at standard atmospheric pressure). This puts the boiling and freezing points of water exactly 180 degrees apart. Therefore, a degree on the Fahrenheit scale is 1⁄180 of the interval between the freezing point and the boiling point.
According to a letter Fahrenheit wrote to his friend Herman Boerhaave,his scale was built on the work of Ole Rømer, whom he had met earlier. In Rømer’s scale, brine freezes at zero, water freezes and melts at 7.5 degrees, body temperature is 22.5, and water boils at 60 degrees. Fahrenheit multiplied each value by four in order to eliminate fractions and increase the granularity of the scale. He then re-calibrated his scale using the melting point of ice and normal human body temperature (which were at 30 and 90 degrees); he adjusted the scale so that the melting point of ice would be 32 degrees and body temperature 96 degrees, so that 64 intervals would separate the two, allowing him to mark degree lines on his instruments by simply bisecting the interval six times (since 64 is 2 to the sixth power).

Fahrenheit observed that water boils at about 212 degrees using this scale. Later, other scientists decided to redefine the degree slightly to make the freezing point exactly 32°F, and the boiling point exactly 212 °F or 180 degrees higher.[citation needed] It is for this reason that normal human body temperature is approximately 98° (oral temperature) on the revised scale (whereas it was 90° on Fahrenheit's multiplication of Rømer, and 96° on his original scale).

The Fahrenheit system through experimentation logs the interval s between the freezing point of brine and the boiling point of water at 180 degrees (which is one half of a circle) then it was later recalibrated to give 64 degrees of interval between the melting point of ice and the temperature of the human body arbitrarily by bisecting his scale 6 times.
Yes it is fairly arbitrary much as a kings thumb but there is a vast body of science involved in arriving at the arbitrary measure.
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On the Celsius scale, the freezing and boiling points of water are arbitrarily set at 100 degrees apart not because of any science but just to pick 2 benchmarks and divide the space between into 100 units.
Anders Celsius the astronomer created the centigrade scade or 100 (Latin "centum") and "gradus" (latin "steps").
He established zero as the boiling point of water.
Celsius was unaware that the boiling point of water fluctuates with atmospheric pressure while the freeze/thaw temperatures of water remain constant regardless of the pressure.
Later scientists reversed the Celsius scare setting the freeze/thaw point equal to zero and 100 the boiling point at sea level.
Temperatures on the centigrade scale were often reported simply as degrees or, when greater specificity was desired, as degrees centigrade. The symbol for temperature values on this scale is °C
For scientific use, "Celsius" is the term usually used with "centigrade"

so here are 2 examples in detail. the old archaic confusing system hard to work with for the layperson but established in science...
And the simplification for the layperson easy to work with established arbitrarily then later corrected by science.
The lesson here is that what is modern is not by necessity better.
What is new is not necessarily of higher founding than what it has replaced and the knowledge embodied in the legacy practices is lost when the legacy practices are abandoned.
 
Well you, my good friend, made this high school dropouts head hurt. :D
I was busy reading away out loud since I thought it was interesting, and the wifey asked why I was reading it. I told her cause it was a post on RRR so it must have had good info [cl
 
Ok.....exactly what made you think about this???

I consider myself an itelligent individual but it never ceases to amaze me the topics of discussion that flow from that Analytical mind....Is there some form of stimulus that causes these threads to be posted or is it simply that you were pondering an issue and these thoughts simply popped into your head? I cannot remember ever just sitting at my desk and suddenly having "Metric System, Lost Secrets of the Ancients" appear in my mind and necessitating that I post my findings on the RRR.....lol....

T-Man, you are a rare individual...and I mean that in very respectful way....I consider you a "Thinker" in all sense of the word!.............[cl
 
WOW!! This county boy's little brains was litle "huh?" I just use a tape measure(harbor freight) and hope for the best. After reading all of that it's no wonder the indians was hitting the peyote pipe, they was trying to "get in the right frame of mind" to understand what the white people was using to measure with, as oppossed to their more "natural" methods,such as "about..that long and about this big". :D:D
 
You are a wealth of information. I am still trying to figure out these new wheels.....
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Is that one of those new spinners them boys are putting on those low riders? Do they make in 5x5 pattern? thinking it may match the patina on my new project.[cl
 
Oddly, just yesterday I was idly wondering why the Fahrenheit scale was set up as it is. Thought maybe salt water had something to do with it. Don't forget the Kelvin scale: 0 degrees Kelvin is absolute zero, or -460 degrees F. Brrrrrr! :D
 
ok, so a wealth of information, but as far as the comment on a cubit and 1/12th and all that..... a cubit according to all i understand (biblical-type education) a cubit is about 18" -not 12" it was based on the average length of a man's fore arm--elbow to end of fingers... using Goliath as an example, the KJV says he was 6 cubits and a span... a cubit being approximately 18", and a span was about 9 inches, or the distance from tip of middle finger to base of the wrist.... accordingly, the guy was almost 10 ft tall...



and to add to Samfear's comment... the Farenheit system does have something to do with saltwater--the freezing point of seawater is 0 degree farenheit... the "ratios" within the system i do not know ...
 
A small word of advice, don't try to figure it out at night! [ddd

Toad

I use a flashlight!!!

Just realized they forgot the curich. The weight of crap left in the toilet after you are done. First reported by the Fecal Standards Board from Zurich They are in charge of reporting who has taken the worlds biggest crap.


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Its the molecules of salt that change the water's

and to add to Samfear's comment... the Farenheit system does have something to do with saltwater--the freezing point of seawater is 0 degree farenheit... the "ratios" within the system i do not know ...[/QUOTE]


Density.....thus raising the boiling point and or lowering the freezing temperature...the surface tension is also affected as well....[S hence the reason why you will float on the surface of the great salt lake but not as well in the ocean....more salt, more surface tension.....[S :eek: and yes.....what exactly does this have to do with the price of eggs????? If a chicken and a half, lays and egg and a half, in a day and a half.....how long would it take a grasshopper with a wooden leg to kick the seed out of a dill pickle?????:eek:....[S Ponder that!!!
 
If a chicken and a half, lays and egg and a half, in a day and a half.....how long would it take a grasshopper with a wooden leg to kick the seed out of a dill pickle?????:eek:....[S Ponder that!!!

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you sir may be the king of bs...if torchmann ever steps down as reigning chief;)
 
....how long would it take a grasshopper with a wooden leg to kick the seed out of a dill pickle?????:eek:....[S Ponder that!!!

Ask a dead horse, I'll bet it knows! But how do you get it to answer? May beat it out of him? [S:D

Sarge, you must mean buoyancy. There's only one guy I've heard of that didn't break the surface tension of water - lived about 2,000 years ago. Nice guy from what I hear. I think HRP knows him pretty good. :)
 
AAAAAAAAAAAA....Men!!!

Ask a dead horse, I'll bet it knows! But how do you get it to answer? May beat it out of him? [S:D

Sarge, you must mean buoyancy. There's only one guy I've heard of that didn't break the surface tension of water - lived about 2,000 years ago. Nice guy from what I hear. I think HRP knows him pretty good. :)

I haven't a clue of what I was talking about in the first place.....LOL...surface tension, buoyancy....salt water, fresh water, rain water, metric, SAE, what the, where the, who the....!! I was attempting to inject a small amount of humor into a somewhat intense conversation of very little consequence.....lol..... If in fact, the Tman was to ever step down from his post.....I would be honored to take up his crusade to boggle the mind, increase the threat word count and generally inflict mayhem into the vast amount of BS that flows in this forum......I am at "your service".....blah blah blah blah blah........thank you.....thank you very much!!!
 

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