klink
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50 Dodge Pilot
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Skip
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When I was setting up my 39, I set the front fenders where they needed to be, then worked back from there. Tricky work, but patience pays off. Don't bolt anything in permanent until you have everything where you want it.This is an ambitious project for me. My past experience has been engine swaps, stuff like that., never a chassis swap. Much appreciate your suggestions Skull.
@Skull-- The couple inches forward on the front wheels kinda' gives it an aggressive look. Like old gassers. Not a bad thing at all.
Bamamav
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That clamp only holds the outside tube. The shaft is one piece from the box to the steering wheel. You'll have to take the wheel off, then take the box off and drop the box and column out the bottom.
Or do it the quick way, saw or cutting torch the shaft and column and leave the box on the frame.
Or do it the quick way, saw or cutting torch the shaft and column and leave the box on the frame.
Column, pointers
Much appreciate the tip Bamamav. I'm gonna take it apart, no saw, no torch. May expand my vocabulary doin it. My wife has the stock column in her Pilot. Parts are good.
Skip., Skull. I thank you both for your suggestions. You have both been there before me.
Much appreciate the tip Bamamav. I'm gonna take it apart, no saw, no torch. May expand my vocabulary doin it. My wife has the stock column in her Pilot. Parts are good.
Skip., Skull. I thank you both for your suggestions. You have both been there before me.
skull
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keep
are you planning on keeping the straight axle?
if so, l am not to sure how to graft the S 1O to the dodge[S
how wide is the S 1O frame and how wide is the dodge frame where they need to be joined?
how would it affect the cab mounts?
what steering box?
a few more l am sure but for now that is something to start with for now.
Later
are you planning on keeping the straight axle?
if so, l am not to sure how to graft the S 1O to the dodge[S
how wide is the S 1O frame and how wide is the dodge frame where they need to be joined?
how would it affect the cab mounts?
what steering box?
a few more l am sure but for now that is something to start with for now.
Later
details
I plan to use the stock S10 Chassis and save the Dodge I Beam, column, steering box and rear axle for other projects. Was just thinking I could use the very front portion of the Dodge chassis, cut it off, modify as needed, weld it onto the front of the S10 chassis as an attach point for the Dodge front clip.
I plan to use the stock S10 Chassis and save the Dodge I Beam, column, steering box and rear axle for other projects. Was just thinking I could use the very front portion of the Dodge chassis, cut it off, modify as needed, weld it onto the front of the S10 chassis as an attach point for the Dodge front clip.
Old Iron
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If the Dodge body is anywhere near a 50"s Chevy then, you won't have room to graft the frame horns onto the front of the S10 frame stub. You'll have to make the front clip body mounts.
Skip
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Frame front cab mounts
- Measure the distance from the axle center-line to the mounts, and the width of the frame at the frame head on the Dodge.
- Take the same measurements on the S10 chassis.
- Compare.
front clip placement
Its clear the axle center line is the key. I will act on your advice Skip and set the front clip in place and work from there. Lots of measuring and work. I understand now that I will need to make the front body mounts to get it right. Thanks Skull., Iron., for your thoughts.
Its clear the axle center line is the key. I will act on your advice Skip and set the front clip in place and work from there. Lots of measuring and work. I understand now that I will need to make the front body mounts to get it right. Thanks Skull., Iron., for your thoughts.
skull
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pics
on my build thread:
page 2 first pic
page 5 has where the motor mounts had to be moved back to fit properly and clear things up front, hence the wheel barrow for firewall clearance in the rear, if needed those pics are on my thread also
page 19 some pics of grafted frame of old frame to new for bumper, rad and other stuff to mount
page 38 cab frame mount reattached for cab to bolt on
if you need more frame pics of where the camaro sub-frame is welded to the original chassis as the front sheet metal is off 'cause l am working on the damaged sheet metal-- l can get somemore in the daylight of the place where we married the two.
l know it may be a little different on the S 1O stuff, but, it gives a general idea of how l did mine.
Later
on my build thread:
page 2 first pic
page 5 has where the motor mounts had to be moved back to fit properly and clear things up front, hence the wheel barrow for firewall clearance in the rear, if needed those pics are on my thread also
page 19 some pics of grafted frame of old frame to new for bumper, rad and other stuff to mount
page 38 cab frame mount reattached for cab to bolt on
if you need more frame pics of where the camaro sub-frame is welded to the original chassis as the front sheet metal is off 'cause l am working on the damaged sheet metal-- l can get somemore in the daylight of the place where we married the two.
l know it may be a little different on the S 1O stuff, but, it gives a general idea of how l did mine.
Later
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Road Map
A BIG Thank You Skull for sharing. Your photos tell it well. The frame graft for supports is there to see. Will need to make my engine mounts too. Yes I would like to see your sub frame attachment points to the stock frame.
A BIG Thank You Skull for sharing. Your photos tell it well. The frame graft for supports is there to see. Will need to make my engine mounts too. Yes I would like to see your sub frame attachment points to the stock frame.
skull
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frame part one
we just set the stock dodge frame on top of the camaro sub-frame to get it where l wanted it to set.
pic 1- stock frame to camaro for bumper/sheet metal mounts
pic 2- plate welded to both frames with the camaro on the bottom
pic 3- camaro resting on the dodge with trans mount
pic 4- plate is welded to both frames, you can't see in the pic but both frames are welded to each other
pic 5- another angle of the 2 frame mating
pic 6- dodge frame angle cut to rest on top of the camaro sub-frame
pic 7- shot of plate from front
pic 8- another shot of plate from the front
pic 9 & 1O- mating of stock pieces we cut off and grafted to camaro sub-frame for bumper and sheet metal.
Later
we just set the stock dodge frame on top of the camaro sub-frame to get it where l wanted it to set.
pic 1- stock frame to camaro for bumper/sheet metal mounts
pic 2- plate welded to both frames with the camaro on the bottom
pic 3- camaro resting on the dodge with trans mount
pic 4- plate is welded to both frames, you can't see in the pic but both frames are welded to each other
pic 5- another angle of the 2 frame mating
pic 6- dodge frame angle cut to rest on top of the camaro sub-frame
pic 7- shot of plate from front
pic 8- another shot of plate from the front
pic 9 & 1O- mating of stock pieces we cut off and grafted to camaro sub-frame for bumper and sheet metal.
Later
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skull
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Sub frame install
I like your double stack subframe set up and additional fabrication work to beef it up. Its like a Z'd frame. The truck sits nice. I will take my time with mock up to get the front clip and cab on the S10 frame. What year Camaro subframe did you use?
Thanks Skull, appreciate your time to load photos and share details.
More progress. The rusty Dodge donor is coming apart.
I like your double stack subframe set up and additional fabrication work to beef it up. Its like a Z'd frame. The truck sits nice. I will take my time with mock up to get the front clip and cab on the S10 frame. What year Camaro subframe did you use?
Thanks Skull, appreciate your time to load photos and share details.
More progress. The rusty Dodge donor is coming apart.
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