35Mastr
Mastr Blastr
I have to plumb the booster to the proportioning valve.Has anyone used braided line instead of hard line for this?I have seen it on a couple of cars but I have never done it.
Feed back please.
Feed back please.
Brake lines
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Gastrick
One of the Dirty Dozen!
I guess this doesn't help much but I've never done it either. I like hardline in every possible place for brakes. These lines are under much pressure during braking and even though the braided line greatly reduces expansion, I still prefer hardline.
35Mastr
Mastr Blastr
Wow,11 Views and no feed back?Has no one ever gone down this road?
hillbillychopper
Well-known member
brakes
If we that know nothing keep are mouths shut you never know how little we really know
If we that know nothing keep are mouths shut you never know how little we really know
Bonehead
Skull Master
I've always run hard line there, you are going down a new road.
gassersgarage
The California Kid
Same here. I alway use hard lines.
maddog
Here he comes to save the day!
I just replaced all the lines in my truck. I am no expert, but the research I did said use hard lines everywhere you can. If you dont the pedal gets spongy and the brakes dont work as good because they flex.
I am wondering why you want to use braded up by the master. Is it that you cant get the correct legnth of pre made tubing? If so, try some creative bending to make one thats too long work.
I am wondering why you want to use braded up by the master. Is it that you cant get the correct legnth of pre made tubing? If so, try some creative bending to make one thats too long work.
35Mastr
Mastr Blastr
Its just that I ruin more line then I end up using due to bad flaring or just wrong bends.
maddog
Here he comes to save the day!
Bad flaring is no good.
If its too long, make a loop or an s in the line to use up some legnth. Done cleverly, it will look like its spose to be there.
Sometimes if its real difficult and complicated, bend up a welding wire or coat hanger to fit. Then copy it with your tubing.
It does get easier.... about the time your finished.
35Mastr
Mastr Blastr
Its in a spot where it is going to be seen so it has to be done right.I just tried to do another one a little while ago.Kinked it right at the last bend.Another one for scrap.This is becoming all way to frustrating.
Gastrick
One of the Dirty Dozen!
George, where is your proportioning Valve? Some of the companies such as Master Power Brakes make prebent lines for the factory type proportioning valves that are mounted near the master cylinder.
maddog
Here he comes to save the day!
Sorry man, I know what you mean. I too have a pile of wasted lines I have kept for some reason. I may buy the double flareing tool someday and use some of them.
How are you bending them?
Do you have a tubing bender? If you dont, pull real hard on the ends when you bend it over a pipe or something round and this will help from kinking it.
I think I also did a search on the HAMB for brake lines and got some good tips.
Could you move the proporsioning valve a little?
OK, bad idea, just trying to help.
maddog
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Hey, I just noticed your in Newark. I had a shop on W. Winton in Hayward for years before moving to S Cal. We were neighbors, wish I could come over and help you.
35Mastr
Mastr Blastr
35Mastr
Mastr Blastr
I am bending them with a tubing bender.if you have the thread fro the HAMB.I would love to see it.This is becoming a nightmare.Sorry man, I know what you mean. I too have a pile of wasted lines I have kept for some reason. I may buy the double flareing tool someday and use some of them.
How are you bending them?
Do you have a tubing bender? If you dont, pull real hard on the ends when you bend it over a pipe or something round and this will help from kinking it.
I think I also did a search on the HAMB for brake lines and got some good tips.
Could you move the proporsioning valve a little?
35Mastr
Mastr Blastr
Actually muy cousin has a shop there.It probably was ther when you were.
Its called Amarals Upolstery.
donsrods
Well-known member
I am probably going to order my stainless steel lines this week from Inline Tube. They will put the ends on for you and for about and extra $ 5 per tube you get stainless end fittings too. I am going to run braided for a short distance from the master cylinder to the residual valves, then hard line the rest of the way, until I get to the wheel brake lines. The reason I am using braided from the master cylinder is because of the tightness in that area between the M/C and the tranny.
I never have had luck double flaring brake lines, so I let the experts do it for me.
Don
I never have had luck double flaring brake lines, so I let the experts do it for me.
Don
35Mastr
Mastr Blastr
About how far is it going to braided from the master to the residual?I think I only need about 24 inches.
Let me know
maddog
Here he comes to save the day!
LordMaximo
We call him King Maximo!
high pressure lines
If you plane on using some sort of hose instead of hard lines, you need to use "High pressure" type hose rated at the pressure zones the brake system works at. Simple braded line is just not made to handle the ratings.
Plus the reasons for the hard lines is for protection from the extreme elements our rides are subjected to over the years of its' life. Mind you, the flex lines from the chassis to the front spindles are rated at nearly twice the excerted pressures of the brake system. Reason are for safety, and at the proximity of the booster to the proportional valve, the pressure is at its greatest value for the entire system. Hard lines are the best, safety wise, to go.
Maximo
If you plane on using some sort of hose instead of hard lines, you need to use "High pressure" type hose rated at the pressure zones the brake system works at. Simple braded line is just not made to handle the ratings.
Plus the reasons for the hard lines is for protection from the extreme elements our rides are subjected to over the years of its' life. Mind you, the flex lines from the chassis to the front spindles are rated at nearly twice the excerted pressures of the brake system. Reason are for safety, and at the proximity of the booster to the proportional valve, the pressure is at its greatest value for the entire system. Hard lines are the best, safety wise, to go.
Maximo
