Read this

[Willowbilly3]

found it on another forum

http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm

 

[cantwell.colton]

whoa... no bueno.

 

[CR55]

Good reading WB! I remember years ago, I was preping a log cabin for stain and I would load my paint sprayer with a dilluted mixture of bleach and water to remove years of stains from the unfinished logs. I stopped for the weekend and the owner decided he would "speed" things along, but my mixture wasn't working quick enough for him so he added some toilet bowl cleaner. He started to pass out from the fumes and had to go to the hospital when his breathing became labored! Lucky he didn't die!! Turns out that was a deadly mixture! You gotta watch what you're doing all of the time....CR

 

[HOT40ROD]

Good reading WB! I remember years ago, I was preping a log cabin for stain and I would load my paint sprayer with a dilluted mixture of bleach and water to remove years of stains from the unfinished logs. I stopped for the weekend and the owner decided he would "speed" things along, but my mixture wasn't working quick enough for him so he added some toilet bowl cleaner. He started to pass out from the fumes and had to go to the hospital when his breathing became labored! Lucky he didn't die!! Turns out that was a deadly mixture! You gotta watch what you're doing all of the time....CR

I do not know if you read what I posted in the help hand post. But that is basically what there are using in the suicide pack I wrote about. Instead of toilet bowl cleaner they are using Drain cleaner. Hes lucky If it would have been in an enclosed area he would not be with use anymore.

 

[Sniper]

Phosgene gas, or more widely known as "mustard gas" was used to kill the enemy during world war 1. Both sides used it. It's heavier than air, and will sink and lurk in a low area for many hours if in a high enough concentration. (Foxholes and shell holes were no safe haven when filled with phosgene gas, dive in a hole and die from the gas, or stay on top and be shot while in the open, they didn't have much of a choice.) Moving air, brisk enough to move and dissipate the gas to a lesser level is the only practical form of getting rid of the potential danger. Smokers need to be even more diligent, even just the fumes from the brake cleaner will get you if you take a drag off that cigarette, and draw fumes past the glowing ember. It only needs 900 degrees to convert to phosgene, and in this case, it goes directly to your lungs. Exact same thing with Freon gas used in AC cooling system. Although R12 and R22 are pretty well a thing of the past, the exact same dangers apply. Heat either one to 900 degrees or over and it converts to phosgene, or like mentioned, draw it through a cigarette. There's a lot of things that can get you that seem innocent enough at first glance.

 

[earthman]

Good to know this stuff WB. I would like to have warning poster with this kind of info to pass out to everyone here.

 

[moparcowboy]

I agree --good to know!! Thanks

 

[Willowbilly3]

It's kinda scarey to think you have 2 things in your house that would make poisonous gas, the chlorox and drain cleaner. Knew some people that lost a toddler, got under the sink and took a swig of draino, bad stuff to keep around.