Wanna hear something crazy???

[Dr Crankenstein]

My Son said you Canadians know how to party ! [cl He came home with his tail between his legs and his butt dragging.

Don

Sounds like he managed to have a good time, despite the missing drummer!

Too bad things have changed so much. We used to cross the border and back on a day trip, and it was good clean fun. We'd load up on beer and speed parts. Beer was 1/3 the price, and we saved a bundle on shipping the parts.

Crossing the border was humorous. It would go something like this,

Border Officer: "You got anything to declare?"

Us: "Yeah, we do. We got a transmission, an intake manifold, some braided line, and 200 beer."

They'd have a look in the pickup, and count the inventory.

Officer: "Uh, guys? You've got MORE than 200 beer. We counted 240."

Us: "Oh, s**t. We meant to drink those before we got here."

More often than not, they'd only charge us duty on the parts, and turn a blind eye to the beer.

Like ZZ says, paradise lost.

 

[sgtpontiac]

Sarnia is about 20 miles from me.....

One of our deputies tried to enter Canada armed. They took away his department issued 9mm Beretta and never gave it back. They posted warnings throughout the department, not to travel with a department issued firearm, out of the country. If you lose it, you pay for it.

Went to pickup a prisoner there once.... full uniform and patrol unit... they told me I'd have to check all my weapons at customs and get them back when I left..... I said..."I don't think so".... turned around and told dispatch to have Sarnia deliver our prisoner to the american side of the bridge or keep him..... they drove to the middle of the bridge and we made the exchange... Can you imagine that....yet we let them come over armed without an issue.... I was not a happy camper..... couldn't believe it.....

 

[EnglishBob]

"We" don't make the rules.'You" do.
You seem to forget 'we' are just some small country with oil and softwood with little or no say on border control although from my friends in the R.C.M.P it's not through lack of trying.

 

[sgtpontiac]

Sorry it took so long to respond.. but...

"We" don't make the rules.'You" do.
You seem to forget 'we' are just some small country with oil and softwood with little or no say on border control although from my friends in the R.C.M.P it's not through lack of trying.

I'm a wee bit confused as the "rule" thing.... we dictate whether or not "your "country allows "us" to travel into Canada armed while in uniform???
I'm not sure that I understand that one! [S

 

[oldmanb]

Can you imagine that....yet we let them come over armed without an issue.... I was not a happy camper..... couldn't believe it.....[/QUOTE]

Since when??? Different laws in different countries,there to be respected and enforced,you can't make your own rules as you wish.

 

[EnglishBob]

I'm a wee bit confused as the "rule" thing.... we dictate whether or not "your "country allows "us" to travel into Canada armed while in uniform???
I'm not sure that I understand that one! [S

The American government changed all the rules and us lowly Canucks had little or no say on border control.
Whatever rules there are in place along the border Homeland security were the majority voice and we basically agreed.Obvioulsly your Government didn't like the idea of you weapon touting gunslingers coming into our little villages and giving us bad ideas.

 

[donsrods]

I'll say one thing, you guys sure have some pretty country up there. Don showed me pictures the other night of the area they were in (I think it is something like Bath Bay (?) right on the Atlantic ocean. Everything was so clean and picturesque. He said the water was a little cold though.

Don

 

[Dr Crankenstein]

sgtpontiac,

As I've said, 9/11 changed everything. To my knowledge, the US government got real ugly about our soft laws regarding entry to Canada. I believe the Canadian government realised that change was in order, and accepted the US gov's recommendations, for the most part. Not much wrong with that, but it does make crossing the border an interesting experience, no matter which way you're going.

Our laws have always been tough on firearms. Especially handguns. Doesn't surprise me for a minute they wouldn't let you "carry" in this country, especially after 9/11. Peace Officer or not, the handgun was gonna be a no.

The RCMP has always had a reputation for being hard-nosed. They've been taking guns from Americans since their inception in 1873.

This country is big, but it's not Texas! Check your guns at the door.

Laws don't have to make sense. Look at who makes them. Politicians and lawyers.

Donsrods;

Thanks for some kind words about our vast landscape. Now I'm curious where your son was exactly? Bath Bay doesn't compute. Wherever he was, he should try dipping his toe in the water in January. He and his band would've done an about-face, right then and there.

 

[sgtpontiac]

I can agree that "citizens" should not take weapons

Into another country.

I believe that a uniformed law enforcement officer acting in the capacity of same, retrieving a prisoner from another law enforcement department would be extended a courtesy as they are going to enter and exit the country as quickly as they can hook up, pat down and place said prisoner into their patrol unit... then as quickly, exit the country.... not exactly the same thing as going on vacation for a week and expecting to take my weapon with me....

I vacation every year in Port Carling Ontario... the Georgian Bay area is beautiful as if most of Canada...including the Yukon territory....

It is not the RCMP that asked for our weapons, it was immigrations / border/ Customs officers.... I do not know of any Canadian Officers who have been denied entry or asked to surrender their weapons while in the performance of their duties..... That ain't us dictating their actions, that is Canadian Border/ Customs.....JMHO

 

[EnglishBob]

It was border control/immigration that 'Your' Government said was too soft and have to stiffen up the rules so they did,so to reiterate it was 'you' that made the rules.

 

[sgtpontiac]

I understand what you are saying but.....

It was border control/immigration that 'Your' Government said was too soft and have to stiffen up the rules so they did,so to reiterate it was 'you' that made the rules.

We did not tell Canada to look past common sense and logic.... but "I" feel that Canada has taken this to the extreme..... I know....common sense and logic have no place in governmental decision making....lol... we will have to agree to disagree.....Love Ya my Canadian brother.....

 

[skull]

yep

I would have climbed on the plane and came home with him!!!

then let them cunucks explain to the fans why there is no concert

Later

 

[EnglishBob]

We did not tell Canada to look past common sense and logic.... but "I" feel that Canada has taken this to the extreme..... I know....common sense and logic have no place in governmental decision making....lol... we will have to agree to disagree.....Love Ya my Canadian brother.....

If you'd like to check with Border control like I did they were simply told 'No weapons' across the border.
Canada hasn't taken anything to the extreme but as usual they have been 'dictated' to and as a much smaller population and in need of their neighbours business dealings it agreed.We were told by your government that our borders were too weak and an easy option for terrorists to cross either way without detection.
It wasn't that long ago that you could check you firearms at the border and then carry them to pick up prisoners...My brother in law was in law enforcement at a Montanna border crossing so I asked him.
Also as a side note it's "Canuck".
I don't consider this a difference of opinion but simply a debate lacking some relevant facts.
Oh and just for the record the 'English' in me doesn't debate...we riot.

 

[Sniper]

What we should really be doing collectively, is thanking Bin Laden and his buddies for all these changes. Oh wait.....we did thank Bin Laden...... we should go thank some more!!! Party on!![ddd

 

[bob w]

Risking my good standing with many people on RRR, I have thought we should just absorb Canada into the United States. Except for the French speaking part, and the pot smoking part.

That would eliminate all these border problems and Alaska wouldn't feel so isolated.

 

[Sniper]

Risking my good standing with many people on RRR, I have thought we should just absorb Canada into the United States. Except for the French speaking part, and the pot smoking part.

That would eliminate all these border problems and Alaska wouldn't feel so isolated.

That's funny!

Well shoot......we're kind of like the suburbs anyway.

 

[skull]

mexi too

That's funny!

Well shoot......we're kind of like the suburbs anyway.

l can use a vacation where its warm,

no more illegal alien problem if we also include mexico,

heck, l say we just go from alaska to the panama canal [cl

Later

 

[Dr Crankenstein]

Oh and just for the record the 'English' in me doesn't debate...we riot.

Must have been you and some of your "mates" in Vancouver.

Risking my good standing with many people on RRR, I have thought we should just absorb Canada into the United States. Except for the French speaking part, and the pot smoking part.
.

Would you consider just taking the French? We don't mind the smokers too much.

Into another country.

I believe that a uniformed law enforcement officer acting in the capacity of same, retrieving a prisoner from another law enforcement department would be extended a courtesy as they are going to enter and exit the country as quickly as they can hook up, pat down and place said prisoner into their patrol unit... then as quickly, exit the country.... not exactly the same thing as going on vacation for a week and expecting to take my weapon with me....

I vacation every year in Port Carling Ontario... the Georgian Bay area is beautiful as if most of Canada...including the Yukon territory....

It is not the RCMP that asked for our weapons, it was immigrations / border/ Customs officers.... I do not know of any Canadian Officers who have been denied entry or asked to surrender their weapons while in the performance of their duties..... That ain't us dictating their actions, that is Canadian Border/ Customs.....JMHO

It's ridiculous, regardless of who's responsible for the dumb laws. What you need is a good cop buddy up here. Borrow a shotgun, and blast some ducks and geese. I know flying lead, a warm barrel, and a pile of carcasses makes me feel better.

 

[Willowbilly3]

Once about 30 years ago I mistakenly grabbed a book of checks from an old closed account. $50 check landed me in jail for a felony. After explaining it to the judge and paying the merchant the $50, the charges were dropped. Fast forward 20 years and I got stopped at the Canadian border because I had a felony arrest.Their records only show arrests, not the disposition of the case. They did let me through since it had been 20 years and they figured I wasn't a career felon but they did tell me not to come back through unless I has all the paperwork to show the charges were dropped.

 

[sgtpontiac]

English Bob..... I gotta say.

You are a hoot!! Speaking of the Riots over in GB.... what the heck? I haven't read much about what got this all started.... some shooting? I thought only the special response teams and the military could carry there.... has that changed over the last 5 years?? Had a friend of mine in Scotland was a constable.... his "beat" was 26 square miles.... went to a tavern brawl...30 or so guys fighting....was told there was no backup coming so he let them fight until they quit..... got a month off duty for dereliction of duty.....left the force and went into marketing..... let's see...30 drunken bloke's fighting, one officer, no back up... sounds like an A$$ kicking to try and wade in to stop it..... guess I'm spoiled.... if I call for assistance I get responses from every direction....besides, I've got batons, chemical spray, 40cal Sig, AR-15 and Remington 870 short barrel..... a wee bit more options....lol