COE wide track width

Rat Rods Rule

Help Support Rat Rods Rule:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

OddTodd

New member
Joined
Feb 5, 2025
Messages
4
Location
Houston area
Newbie here looking for some chassis advice.
I'm in the very early planning stages of a COE build. I'm not ready to let the cat out of the bag just yet on what the cab is though.
The cab is really wide at 95"
I would like to have an air bagged IFS under the cab, not a beam style solid axle. The diesel engine will not be under the cab, it will instead be behind the cab. I was looking at getting a GM P series widetrack chassis from a motorhome as a possible donor for the following reasons.
The wide track width
The correct steering box orientation
Some, I believe have 10 lugs
And I THOUGHT that they utilized the same IFS suspension components as the 1ton trucks of the same era, which the air bag kits are readily available for. After asking questions on an RV forum, I was told that they do not share the same components and that parts are very hard to come by.
Back to the drawing board.
My next option (which just might be better as it would gain me a badass drivetrain) a 2007-2010 2wd 1ton GM dually with Duramax & 6spd Allison. I would then have to buy aftermarket extended upper and lower control arms and a front facing rack and pinion.
The 3rd option would be to buy a custom front clip from Scott's Hot Rods. However, this option would cost as much as the aforementioned donor dually with drivetrain and kinda gets away from the ratrod spirit of things.

One more option that I was thinking about. This build is going to have a rectangular tubing frame that will be Zee'd front and rear to "lay frame" when the bags are emptied. I suppose that instead of welding the donor ifs frame to the front ends of the rectangular tubing, I could instead weld the donor ifs frame pieces to the outside of the rectangular tubing. Effectively spreading them apart.
I welcome any feedback, thoughts, ideas and experiences.
 
The smart people will be around soon.
I'm the dumb guy that just asks questions.

I'm curious, how much too narrow is the width of the 1 ton front suspension? Most 1 tons I've seen have a spacer attached to the rotor so they can use a standard duel tire wheel, with the tire set back in from the hub. If a guy could use a wheel off a non-duel 1 ton on the front and retain the spacer, you could effective move the tire/wheel outward at least a couple inches per side. Would that be wide enough? Then you could use all the 1 ton air bag stuff. You could still Z the 1 ton frame if you wanted, just need a bit more bracing at the splice.

Welcome aboard from the north west corner of Illinois.
 
Thank you for the replies.

I would like to run 10 lug Alcoas or at the very least a phantom direct-bolt wheel that appears to be a 10 lug. I don't think a regular wheel would get me there.
The track width for a 2010 Chevrolet 3500 dually is 68.6" in the front. That's a lot narrower than a 95" wide cab
 
I think using stock single wheels on a dual tire one ton front end would create problems. It would give too much leverage too far away from the normal pivot points of the ball joints and also not put the load in the center of the front wheel bearings. All that being said there a lot of guys running wide rims with a lot of offset on pickups. They wear things out pretty fast though. The other thing to consider is that track width is center line of tires and not overall width. You may want to measure potential donors before committing to anything.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top