got a 64 1/2 mustang today
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Nice! Keep us posted, look like a good deal to me.
StoneCold65
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Not a Ford guy but looks like you scored.
How's the floorpan and front frame?
How's the floorpan and front frame?
hotrod preacher
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looks like a good project to me--i wouldn't have passed it up either!!
just curious, how can you tell it's a 64 1/2 instead of 65?[S
just curious, how can you tell it's a 64 1/2 instead of 65?[S
Hello from texarkana...NICE score....Long time mustang guy here..best way to quickly decipher the 64.1/5 from a 65 is the beveled front headlight door buckets, just under the hood around the grill. anything past nov of 64 will be flat..ONLY the 64.1/5s were beveled and the edge of the hood will have a small lip just above the grill suround at the outer edges... Good luck with it and glad to see it get saved..Sammy
hotrod preacher
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thanks for that info, sammy-i didn't know.......i had been told that 64 1/2 cars had a generator instead of alternator, but wasn't even sure of that...
either way, junk magnet made a great score with this one!
either way, junk magnet made a great score with this one!
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Even has 5 lug hubs and axles front an rear, totally smokin deal!!
rebstew
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Good price for it. The Mustangs are getting hard to come by now. I used to beat around in a 68 GT fastback years ago. I loved that old car.
93blazer4dr
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nice find. my sister has a 64 1/2 stand its done but she wont drive it. you dont live to far out from me.
93blazer4dr
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any pics of my sisters stang??? or you asking about his??? im not trying to mess his thread up so sorry if i did.
junkmagnet
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different dash panel
junkmagnet
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eminence, ky in henry co.
HOT40ROD
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thanks for that info, sammy-i didn't know.......i had been told that 64 1/2 cars had a generator instead of alternator, but wasn't even sure of that...
either way, junk magnet made a great score with this one!
HOT40ROD
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And a lip on the front corners of the hood to match the beveled headlight bucket. That hood has not been reproduced. A little hard to see in this picture.
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I found this today looking for something else.
What is the difference between a 1964 1/2 Mustang and a 1965 Mustang?
There actually aren't any Mustangs that are stamped "1964". They all carry a "5" in the VIN number, designating a "1965". Mustang Coupe and Convertible production began in April 1964. It is still unclear as to exactly when Fastback production started, but it appears to be sometime in the summer of 1964.
The first Coupes and Convertibles that were manufactured had the engine codes C, D, F, K or U. When the early D, F and U engines were being phased out, the Fastback production was just beginning.
As the first Fastbacks rolled down the assembly line, some may have been outfitted with the last remaining early engines available. Therefore, the first Fastbacks may have had engine codes D, F or U. As production continued and these early engines ran out, engines with codes A, C, K and T were used. The K code engine was available from 1964 up until 1967.
It can be difficult to prove a true 1964 1/2 Mustang, but any early Mustang with a D, F or U engine code is definitely a 1964 1/2 Mustang. Mustangs with engine codes A or T are considered 1965's. Mustangs with the C or K code engine option could be either a 1964 1/2 or a 1965 Mustang. It is important to check the build date on the door tag. This date gives further information as to when the car was assembled.
There is also a "gray area" when explaining the differences between 1964 1/2 and 1965 Mustangs. The very earliest 1965's could have some of the 1964 1/2 parts installed on them. These parts were put on 1965's until the parts were phased out, similar to the engines being phased out. Some of the unique characteristics of the first parts include the following:
* HEADLIGHT EXTENSIONS AND HOODS: The first manufactured headlight extensions had a beveled edge along the top. The front corners of the hood skin remained un-pinched around the hood frame. This un-pinched flange pointed straight down to fill a gap that was caused by the beveled headlight extension (1965 headlight extensions did not carry this beveled edge; therefore the hood skins were pinched).
* RADIATOR CORE SUPPORT: The first manufactured core supports had three long vertical slots near the battery (1965 core supports had four elongated oval slots).
* HORN STYLE AND MOUNTING LOCATION: The first manufactured Mustang horns were quite large and mounted down on the strut rod frame rails near the bottom inside corners of the radiator (1965 horns were considerably smaller and mounted on the core support near the top outside corners of the radiator).
* FASTBACK REAR INTERIOR STEEL TRIM: The first manufactured Fastback rear trim wrapped around the interior's fiberglass panels. This steel trim extended from under the rear window, around the fiberglass interior panels and stopped about 1 1/2 inches short of the door glass (1965 steel trim extended all the way to the door glass).
* AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION SHIFTER HANDLE: The first manufactured AT shifter handles were quite small (1965 AT shifter handles are the same shape, but about 50% larger than the early ones).
* PASSENGER SEAT: The first manufactured passenger seats were not adjustable to move forward or backward. There was not any sliding track mechanism on the mounting hardware (1965 passenger seats had full front to rear sliding adjustment).
* SHORT CARPET: The first manufactured carpet did not climb up the rocker panel. It stopped at the rocker and had an embroidered edge. The rocker was then covered with vinyl to match the interior (1965 carpet climbed up the rocker panel and was covered by the door sill plate).
* FLOOR PAN: The first manufactured floor pans had staggered seat belt mounting holes along the transmission tunnel for the front seats. The passenger seatbelt mounting hole was the furthest forward to accommodate the non-adjusting seat. These floor pans were not immediately phased out. I actually have mid-year 1965 Mustangs with staggered holes (Most mid-year and later 1965 floor pans had evenly spaced seatbelt mounting holes).
* SEAT RISERS: The first manufactured seat risers had a large oval cutout in the center. (1965 seat risers had a solid top).
These are some of the differences that we have found. We hope you have enjoyed reading this. If you have found this guide to be helpful, please indicate by voting "YES" below.
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Guide ID: 10000000001688094Guide created: 08/30/06 (updated 07/17/11)
What is the difference between a 1964 1/2 Mustang and a 1965 Mustang?
There actually aren't any Mustangs that are stamped "1964". They all carry a "5" in the VIN number, designating a "1965". Mustang Coupe and Convertible production began in April 1964. It is still unclear as to exactly when Fastback production started, but it appears to be sometime in the summer of 1964.
The first Coupes and Convertibles that were manufactured had the engine codes C, D, F, K or U. When the early D, F and U engines were being phased out, the Fastback production was just beginning.
As the first Fastbacks rolled down the assembly line, some may have been outfitted with the last remaining early engines available. Therefore, the first Fastbacks may have had engine codes D, F or U. As production continued and these early engines ran out, engines with codes A, C, K and T were used. The K code engine was available from 1964 up until 1967.
It can be difficult to prove a true 1964 1/2 Mustang, but any early Mustang with a D, F or U engine code is definitely a 1964 1/2 Mustang. Mustangs with engine codes A or T are considered 1965's. Mustangs with the C or K code engine option could be either a 1964 1/2 or a 1965 Mustang. It is important to check the build date on the door tag. This date gives further information as to when the car was assembled.
There is also a "gray area" when explaining the differences between 1964 1/2 and 1965 Mustangs. The very earliest 1965's could have some of the 1964 1/2 parts installed on them. These parts were put on 1965's until the parts were phased out, similar to the engines being phased out. Some of the unique characteristics of the first parts include the following:
* HEADLIGHT EXTENSIONS AND HOODS: The first manufactured headlight extensions had a beveled edge along the top. The front corners of the hood skin remained un-pinched around the hood frame. This un-pinched flange pointed straight down to fill a gap that was caused by the beveled headlight extension (1965 headlight extensions did not carry this beveled edge; therefore the hood skins were pinched).
* RADIATOR CORE SUPPORT: The first manufactured core supports had three long vertical slots near the battery (1965 core supports had four elongated oval slots).
* HORN STYLE AND MOUNTING LOCATION: The first manufactured Mustang horns were quite large and mounted down on the strut rod frame rails near the bottom inside corners of the radiator (1965 horns were considerably smaller and mounted on the core support near the top outside corners of the radiator).
* FASTBACK REAR INTERIOR STEEL TRIM: The first manufactured Fastback rear trim wrapped around the interior's fiberglass panels. This steel trim extended from under the rear window, around the fiberglass interior panels and stopped about 1 1/2 inches short of the door glass (1965 steel trim extended all the way to the door glass).
* AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION SHIFTER HANDLE: The first manufactured AT shifter handles were quite small (1965 AT shifter handles are the same shape, but about 50% larger than the early ones).
* PASSENGER SEAT: The first manufactured passenger seats were not adjustable to move forward or backward. There was not any sliding track mechanism on the mounting hardware (1965 passenger seats had full front to rear sliding adjustment).
* SHORT CARPET: The first manufactured carpet did not climb up the rocker panel. It stopped at the rocker and had an embroidered edge. The rocker was then covered with vinyl to match the interior (1965 carpet climbed up the rocker panel and was covered by the door sill plate).
* FLOOR PAN: The first manufactured floor pans had staggered seat belt mounting holes along the transmission tunnel for the front seats. The passenger seatbelt mounting hole was the furthest forward to accommodate the non-adjusting seat. These floor pans were not immediately phased out. I actually have mid-year 1965 Mustangs with staggered holes (Most mid-year and later 1965 floor pans had evenly spaced seatbelt mounting holes).
* SEAT RISERS: The first manufactured seat risers had a large oval cutout in the center. (1965 seat risers had a solid top).
These are some of the differences that we have found. We hope you have enjoyed reading this. If you have found this guide to be helpful, please indicate by voting "YES" below.
Mustang CHEERS to you!
Be sure to check out our other Mustang Guides for additional restoration information and helpful tips.
FastbackStack, LLC provides the hard-to-find, obsolete Mustang parts for your Classic 1964 1/2 - 1970 Mustang restorations. With over 100,000 items (most of which still need to be listed on eBay), we offer what no one else has! We love hearing from fellow Mustang enthusiasts and would like to extend a special invitation to you to join our exclusive group of those receiving helpful Mustang restoration tips, those learning about our newly listed RARE, ORIGINAL parts, and those receiving money saving specials.
Sign up to receive Mustang restoration tips, information and special savings!
Copyright 2007: FastbackStack, LLC
Guide ID: 10000000001688094Guide created: 08/30/06 (updated 07/17/11)
