just some fun pix

[Burgerman]

Now I'm curious what's under that thing. [S
Those look like stock HHR wheels. Interesting that the HHR was a retro design and now this creation is even more retro.

 

[Dr Crankenstein]

Do you really see anything that would lead you to believe what was done underneath that...that...turd in a tunic! Really guys, I know everybody needs to build safe but I hope Doc's thoughts aren't right on to most of you. Not picking on you Doc but damn if thoughts like that made laws...well we'd have more bs like Old Iron is going thru right now. Granted, not many or maybe not any of us here would do a project like that to start with but do you think for one moment that most of us couldn't probably do it without it being the most dangerous piece of drivable crap ever made???
The combo doesn't look good to me. I didn't see his build thread so I don't know what he did underneath. Just cause it was unibody before, doesn't make it necessarily so now.
Off my soapbox for the guy that wasn't here.....for all I know the dammed thing is photcrapped...

With respect, small, I'm not trying to start an argument or debate, just giving my view on the subject... please hang with me...

I'm curious how anything of this nature is legal anywhere in the civilized world. In the USA and Canada, Motor Vehicle Safety Acts have been in place since the '60's. These are federal standards. There are many exceptions and variations by state or province, but here in SK, the insurance companies and legal authorities stick pretty close to those standards.

My point is, you could not (legally) insure or "title" the abomination as either an HHR, or an AD Chevy truck. It couldn't pass a simple safety inspection as one or the other, because it's neither.

The HHR would have to be structurally intact and sound, period.

The Chevy truck would enjoy many, many grandfathered exceptions, but not when haphazardly glued to the remains of an HHR.

All that said, it doesn't really matter how the subject was put together. It looks dangerous and probably is.

I'm not a fan of most laws and bylaws, but there has to be some semblance of order. Some years ago, I sat on committee to fight proposed changes to our "modified vehicle" clauses. Once the word was out, the committee grew to consist of many persons in many fields... restoration guys, body and collision guys, frame and wheel guys, 4x4 specialists and a good smattering of us race car/hot rod types. The challenge was to enlighten the powers that be. (They knew nothing about old technology and the old cars we love.) In the end, we proved our many points, kept our laws the way they were and established a number of inspection shops who know and understand what they're looking at... thus, preserving our well-built hot rods and weeding out the hopeless junk...

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[bob w]

There is no vehicle safety inspection in Minnesota. If you have street rod plates you can pretty much build/do anything you want. Cops don't bother us unless you are committing a moving violation.

I assumed the truck was on an S-10 chassis and the HHR addition on the back was sort of a pick up box. Cutting a frameless unibody car up like that is definitely unsafe.

 

[lowbudget50]

Now I'm curious what's under that thing. [S
Those look like stock HHR wheels. Interesting that the HHR was a retro design and now this creation is even more retro.

I agree, those do look like HHR Wheels. My neighbor has one. Around here if you do go through all the safety inspections with the DOL you now have to be a certified welder to build a frame for a vehicle. Or you have to have a certified welder sign off on the frame that you built. But then you have junk like his sitting in my shop with that Model T. That car was inspected by Washington State given a VIN number and a title oh, it was so scary I wouldn't have driven it down my driveway. I figured out a couple days ago that the seatbelts are not even bolted in it, they are literally wedged inside the body on a metal tube that if you move it just right they fall out. So I completely disagree on the safety inspection is being the right way to go about things. They still let junk on the roads as long as it has a horn blinkers headlights brake and tail lights

 

[smallfoot]

Sorry guys if I upset the cart. By one side pic, I can't tell squat about a vehicle and neither can anybody else that is honest about it. We are assuming alot and that is a no no.

 

[lowbudget50]

Sorry guys if I upset the cart. By one side pic, I can't tell squat about a vehicle and neither can anybody else that is honest about it. We are assuming alot and that is a no no.

I agree!

 

[05snopro440]

With respect, small, I'm not trying to start an argument or debate, just giving my view on the subject... please hang with me...

I'm curious how anything of this nature is legal anywhere in the civilized world. In the USA and Canada, Motor Vehicle Safety Acts have been in place since the '60's. These are federal standards. There are many exceptions and variations by state or province, but here in SK, the insurance companies and legal authorities stick pretty close to those standards.

My point is, you could not (legally) insure or "title" the abomination as either an HHR, or an AD Chevy truck. It couldn't pass a simple safety inspection as one or the other, because it's neither.

The HHR would have to be structurally intact and sound, period.

The Chevy truck would enjoy many, many grandfathered exceptions, but not when haphazardly glued to the remains of an HHR.

All that said, it doesn't really matter how the subject was put together. It looks dangerous and probably is.

I'm not a fan of most laws and bylaws, but there has to be some semblance of order. Some years ago, I sat on committee to fight proposed changes to our "modified vehicle" clauses. Once the word was out, the committee grew to consist of many persons in many fields... restoration guys, body and collision guys, frame and wheel guys, 4x4 specialists and a good smattering of us race car/hot rod types. The challenge was to enlighten the powers that be. (They knew nothing about old technology and the old cars we love.) In the end, we proved our many points, kept our laws the way they were and established a number of inspection shops who know and understand what they're looking at... thus, preserving our well-built hot rods and weeding out the hopeless junk...

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In Alberta, rust perforation in the rockers of a unibody vehicle is considered to be compromising to the structure and the vehicle will not pass a properly done safety inspection. It looks pretty clear to me that they cut the body off the HHR and put the pickup cab on top. In a car like the HHR, cutting the body off definitely compromises the structure, and there's no engineer or mechanic on earth that should be guaranteeing the safety of any reinforcement or modification like this on a unibody vehicle with the body chopped off.

I assumed the truck was on an S-10 chassis and the HHR addition on the back was sort of a pick up box. Cutting a frameless unibody car up like that is definitely unsafe.

I believe it's on the HHR floorpan for a few reasons. If it was on an S-10 frame, you would see the kickup on the rear frame. Also, those are HHR wheels and a much smaller bolt pattern. You can tell there aren't spacers due to the very narrow track width as well.

I agree, those do look like HHR Wheels. My neighbor has one. Around here if you do go through all the safety inspections with the DOL you now have to be a certified welder to build a frame for a vehicle. Or you have to have a certified welder sign off on the frame that you built. But then you have junk like his sitting in my shop with that Model T. That car was inspected by Washington State given a VIN number and a title oh, it was so scary I wouldn't have driven it down my driveway. I figured out a couple days ago that the seatbelts are not even bolted in it, they are literally wedged inside the body on a metal tube that if you move it just right they fall out. So I completely disagree on the safety inspection is being the right way to go about things. They still let junk on the roads as long as it has a horn blinkers headlights brake and tail lights

We have a very stringent out-of-province inspection in Alberta for any vehicles that are not in the electronic registration system for Alberta. This includes anything that was previously registered here before the electronic system (if you have no proof it was registered here). My dad used to be licensed to do these inspections, and even to have your shop and yourself licensed to do the inspection and stay licensed is a complex process. For the inspection you need to record measurements of items like brake drums and rotors, and have to have photos on record showing items that are meeting the requirements and those that aren't.

That said, there are guys with vintage cars that my dad turned away that had their car inspected and passed elsewhere without unloading it off of the trailer or looking at it mechanically. Those techs are putting their license on the line and opening themselves up to a lot of liability. That doesn't mean the inspection system doesn't work, people just want the easy way out.

I'm wondering if that's what happened on the T in your shop.

 

[lowbudget50]

It could have been the case for sure. But its not the only state inspected rolling death trap I have seen .

They do fall through the cracks I get it

 

[dutch]

would be fun if it turned out to have a chromemoly tube frame and racing suspension ... but I think not...

 

[Tripper]

Pretty sure this is a chick magnet!!! [ddd[ddd

BoB

 

[bruno]

Not unless he parks it on a chicken farm

 

[maverickmk]

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[Dr Crankenstein]

Caption for the above:

"So, you're the guy who cut my horns and pinched my nuts..."
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